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Depending on potency, one would be good. I would get two, to insure you experience the full spectrum and beauty of San Pedro. :D
 
cheers, i might get 2 but then have 1 1/2 and save the other half for an other time

how do you reckon i should take them, cos i was thinking about eating them because that would be easiest for me instead of making a tea
 
To tell you the truth, I wouldn't buy cuttings. I would try and find shavings, this way there is less material to consume. With the shavings, 45 grams will insure a full experience. I took 45 grams, and had a 17, profoundly spiritual experience! What I did was powder the dried cutting, add some lemon juice till it turns dough like, roll swallowable balls, and freeze them overnight(at least). To consume, get some water, thaw the balls a little, and swallow.

If you were to buy those cutting, don't take 1 1/2, take 2. The other half will do you no good. And for those cutting, I would cut it into star shaped figured, and then cut them even smaller. Throw them into a blender with some water and a tiny bit of lemon juice, and blend away. After that, boil for a few hours, trying to reduce the amount of liquid you have. You can either filter the blended material out, or consume everything, which of course would be more gross than it already is. The tea will taste very bitter and horrible. I highly recommend doing what I said in the first paragraph! Anyways, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask

peace & love
 
I made a tea from a cutting from cactusplaza once. weight 985grams of fresh cacti 25cm really fat midsection cutting. Cutted the hole thing in small pieces whitout removing annything, threw it in the blender whit water to make soup. boild it strained it boiled again. Reduced the tea to the smaller amount .1 large soupbowl. Drank the tea and had one of the most intoxicated feelings i ever had. But it was strange, the really sick feeling plus getting almost no air(i had astma when i was a little boy) came on when i was allready tripping. So i tried to threw up as much as possible cause i know right from wrong and this was wrong. After that, i thought the best thing was to go to bed and there i had the most intense dreams/hallucinations/trip i ever had. To bad that i really felt poisend at one point. I think it was because i didn't removed the "plastic"skin layer, the spines and the core. I know the part direct under the skin contains the most mescalin but the skin it selve is a bit toxic right? So yes cactiplaza is a good source to make a long story short :D but i would try 2 cutting for a tea drink half and find out drink the other half or don't drink it when youre allready tripping balls 8) just prepair the tea right remove every thing you don't need from the cacti and youre fine! I'm on xtc right now it just kicked in and feels great didn't do it for a long time and now it almost feels like one off the first times. Might explaine something and i wrote this post on my mobilephone which explaines the endles lines :lol: love
 
I'd go for 60 cm dried if I were you, or even higher as Goran said.

There's no such thing as too much cacti, high concentrated potent cacti is rare, and even with high quality and lots of material you'll have to consume as much as you can. It's VERY hard to get an heroic dose in your system, I'd have to say nearly impossible with home grown cacti if I may believe insiders.

But you can have a very profound experience if you take the time for fasting, and have TOUGH ENDURANCE to swallow, swallow and swallow more more more without puking. Eating 2 hours straight is no exception to me. Keep it in!

Laying down transfers you to your deepest desires and dreams while feeling sick and generally unwell. If you pass out and 'wake up' and start to take steps, you'll see why you went through all the effort. This bath, the melting lime and liquid like serenity is what your desires always were. You're a child that's jumping around as a fragile being with enormous inner realisation of empathy. Even stones have feelings, or sand. Your body is your self, you think with it. Everything is so bright with natural electricity. Green, green, green, dark green, light green, all appearances of green. :D

Mescaline trips are extremly tender, colourful and you'll notice how fucked up it is that there are cars in this world, you'll notice how wack all our food is! Even tap water may be dirty. Fruits are made toxic by modern anti-insect chemicals on it, you'll taste these.

By inhaling oxygen you might detect the microdust too that's going into your nose and lungs. The cactus diagnoses EVERY unclear detail in your body. Fuck meat, diary, cafeine, fats in the week prior to your experience.

Your stomach is going to have extreme cramps for hours but once these are over, you're truly safed from this grey world in which our minds are getting demolished.

When meditating, imagination comes very close to reality. Not just visuals, but fantasized imagination seems to get closer to a reality that is seen as sober reality.

Mescaline cacti are the plants from the deepest roots of mother nature and the universe. Regarding universal natural love, both mescaline and ayahuasca are our parents.

Mescaline is this kind of fantasy world to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCMx-V6 ... re=related Cheesy now I watch it, but the world of mescaline differs with this distance from the sober life.
 
cheers for your help everyone

how ever much i get, im probably gonna do it early november, cos my house will be empty and ill have some peace to do it in
 
I ate a 30cm pedro from divine cactus a few months back (I wrote it up in this forum).

I made a shake out of it (raw) with most of the waxy coating still attached, but removed spines and core, just added some juice. Drank the whole lot (a few pints), but hardly had any trip.

I'd suggest taking more than I did, like others have advised (next time i intend to eat 3x 30cm cacti), and also to prepare it more than I did, either by drying, or by cooking like goran always advises (from what I read I decided to boil it next time as the pro S.A. natives apparently do).

Good luck, have fun, have a sitter and don't get scared!

Rayman 1 absolutely rules (esp artwork)!
 
yeah im gonna get 40 cm of cacti, but im not sure how ill take it, if it looks reasonable to eat when i get it i might just eat it, but if it looks like too much of a hard task then ill boil a tea out of it
 
I do not know what bother everyone when someone pick "boil" word out of deck and says that cacti NEEDS that! Why nobody drink cold extracted coffee, tea, dope??

Pedro cacti is "served" hot! More then 3000 years. No cold extractions, spines pilling, questions bout skin color or when/how cacti is grown¨!?!?


I hate to repeat myself, cacti like normal green tea needs hot water! Even more if U have dry one(cacti)! Molecules needs some help to evade cellular protection!
I tried and seen everything, from freezer and "under zero cell brake methods" to acidifying cacti tissue. Why to hell someone acidify cacti tissue??
Cacti tissue by itself is acid!! Maybe more acidic PH count will make difference??

GUYS AND LADYS, COOK CACTI, COOK IT AS LONG IS POSSIBLE! THIS IS ONLY AND ONLY WAY! OTHERWISE U ARE TROWING YOUR MONEY AND TIME TO FART WIND!

Peace
Light
Love
Bless
 
Also, would 40cm of San Pedro be a reasonable amount for a first time psychedelic experience (not just first time mescaline). I have tripped lightly before on some pills and hallucinated but it wasn't an actual psychedelic drug.

p.s. I know you won't be able to tell the potency of the cacti, but just roughly an average amount
 
Have U or U haven't trip on "real" psydelic's?
REAL PSYDELIC?? What the hell is that! I am talking nonsense, do not listen to this. I divide hallucinogens on two count which really matter!
First count is "true hallucinogen" and "pseudo-hallucinogen", second count is hallucinogen(in mind altering-psychedelic count) or entheogen(also mind altering psychedelic but with much "harder and detailed" side stories bout it like dogma, why to use or one from hundred other reasons.

LOOK IF U ARE LUCKY U WILL ALSO BE HAPPY.
It can be enough, meaning should be if U look on Internet for dose description. What is bitch!? In Peru such amount should be enough for 2-3 people! But they cook 10times that amount in one cooking brew and divide it to 20-25 people. U got it?
Peal it, remove spines first but watch it, do not chop up cacti skin tissue! Outer layer contains biggest amounts of psydelic alkaloids!
Chop it then on small pieces, like chips and cook it as long it is possible. Question:"How much water I need?", Use how much U need, do not let to cooking pots becomes dry. U need to have at least 3dcl of water. Do not be afraid bout evaporation, mescaline doesn't flow and evaporate like water. So U are only loosing water. Put anything what U consider essential for bearable taste and drink it. BUT FIRST EAT THE RESIDUE WHICH IS LEFT ON COOKING POT BOTTOM OR DIVIDED BY U. AND WAIT 40-60 MINUTES BEFORE DRINKING TEA. TEA IS ABSORBED ALMOST INSTANTLY LIKE BEER BUT CELLULOSE CACTI ISN'T! NO MATTER IF U COOK IT IT'S STILL CELLULOSE TISSUE!

HOPE THAT U HAVE GOOD, MORE CONCENTRATED PIECE OF PEDRO FAMILY.

ENJOY

PEACE
LIGHT
LOVE
BLESS
 
I always bought 60cm pieces of San Pedro, and 30cm was always enough for a nice trip. The first time I only took 15cm and thought there'd be close to no effects - but hell no, it was quite nice (I was really surprised).

If 30cm gives you close to no effect either the cactus was shit, or you are extremely insensitive. All the 30cm trips I had were somewhere in the medium range (I haven't had a strong mescaline trip so far, strongest I had was roughly 40cm and that was comparable in strength to 4-5g dried shrooms).

By the way - every time I bought a 60cm piece I kept the top and planted it. I can now confirm that a European home-grown cactus from a good cutting can be as good as the original (grown for 2 and a half years).
 
Tryptonaut a dit:
I always bought 60cm pieces of San Pedro, and 30cm was always enough for a nice trip. The first time I only took 15cm and thought there'd be close to no effects - but hell no, it was quite nice (I was really surprised).

So if i get it right, and ingest 15 to 30cm then it probably will be a smooth trip? Next month, i think i gonna try some san pedro ;)
 
tryptonaut a dit:
I always bought 60cm pieces of San Pedro, and 30cm was always enough for a nice trip. The first time I only took 15cm and thought there'd be close to no effects - but hell no, it was quite nice (I was really surprised).

If 30cm gives you close to no effect either the cactus was shit, or you are extremely insensitive. All the 30cm trips I had were somewhere in the medium range (I haven't had a strong mescaline trip so far, strongest I had was roughly 40cm and that was comparable in strength to 4-5g dried shrooms).

By the way - every time I bought a 60cm piece I kept the top and planted it. I can now confirm that a European home-grown cactus from a good cutting can be as good as the original (grown for 2 and a half years).

Triponaut, how long Pedro trip last for U? Mean how long it take to start, how long has coming up last, peak effect lasting, coming down and in which way. Also I would like to hear have U been frayed next day and maybe day after tomorrow? Speaking bout after effects.

Peace
Light
Love
Bless
 
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