last minute tips on LSA

[ProStoner]

hey
i`m going to do HBWR in a couple of hours
now if anyone has some last minute tips for me I would love to hear them
we will be taking around 4-6 seeds depends on what my friend has with em
we are planning on chewing them for 15-30 minutes and then spit it out
I brushed my teeth and rinsed my mouth with listerine so that my "things"
in my mouth will consume the working ingredients better
oh and a list of Things to do while on LSA is cool also hehe
from your own experiences

 

[Ilian]

youre going to spit them out? never heard of that, just swallow them..?
also its best to do when you havent eaten much, say 4-6hours before taking them..
6 seeds is also quite much for the first time.

but i have never tried it myself, so im not sure. these are just things i have heard from others and read on the net.
enjoy!

 

[ProStoner]

well i`ve read about someone just chewing on them for 30 minutes
and he then spit the remains out and it worked fine for him
and no nausea
oh and I just heard we are gonna take 5 each
and 2day I ate a couple of sandwiches in the afternoon
a bit of chicken 3 hours ago and we are going to take them around 10
so I think that should do
I know i`m feeling damn hungry right now hehe

 

[Rutger]

Sounds interesting , I still have some grinded and extracted seeds lying around here somewhere. Its just never the right time to take them. Keep us updated anyway, perhaps a little realtime trip info right here on Pschonaut ?

 

[Ilian]

Tonight's special event! ProStoner tripping on HBWR seeds live on Psychonaut.com! (you shuld get your ass at the chatbox! #psychonaut irc.quakenet.org )

 

[ProStoner]

wahahaha
yeah I will surtainly try to express what I feel in a couple of hours
and also what my friend is feeling
its funny each time before I go do somethingthat gonna make me trip
I always start to trip a little bit
for example my hands all the linings and so are much more clear and the walls
everything the starting to get shroom effects thing hehe
kinda cool

 

[ProStoner]

i`m chewin em right now

 

[Indiaan]

Me too... The first 3 times I swallowed them too, but got really sick, so I hope spitting them out after 30 minutes decreases the nausea.

 

[tryptonaut]

What was the outcome of your trip?

I'm just about doing an extraction of 400 Heavenly Blue seeds with first naphta and then alcohol to get rid of the bad substances. I heard the trip from such an extract can be great, we'll see

 

[skrudge]

ah man I still want to do that extraction on HBWR...
How much time does the process take?

I talked to a guy who works in a smartshop, and he told me to boil the seeds in the water, then dispose of the crushed seeds, and drink the plain water. Last time I did it I drank the seedresidu as well, and that's what got me sick. I've got four seeds left, gonna try the water method on that, but he advised me to use 8-10 seeds. Maybe I'll just buy a few more and try

 

[Rutger]

Well wat I heard is that boiling something that has LSA in it is a bad thing. The molecule is very unstable at high temperatures. I am still very curious if the apolair extraction of the seeds gives any positive effect. I find so many stuff on the internet that is either really praising the extraction or just putting it down. I almost feel like its my own responsibility to find out if it really works.

Still I would rather take some LSD but that is always more difficult to obtain.

 

[tryptonaut]

Don't boil the seeds! It destroys the LSA quickly. If you want to do a water extraction use cold water. Leave the crushed seeds in the water from 30 minutes to a few hours and only drink the water. Although you can also get sick from that.

The most time-consuming about the two-step extraction was crushing the seeds... I don't have a coffee grinder so I had to crush them in a mortar. Crushing stones is definitely easier! :?
I think next time I use HBWR seeds, so I don't need to crush 400...

The stuff is now soaking in vodka (40% alcohol) and maybe I'm gonna try it tomorrow, but I'm not sure. By the way I didn't have pure alcohol available for the last step so I thought a mix of water and alcohol won't hurt. I can't make a solid extract now, I'll have to drink the vodka but that's ok with me

 

[skrudge]

shit, didn't mean boiling the seeds! sorry!
What I ment was boiling the water, let it cool down a bit and then pour it over the seeds...

Please keep us posted on the extraction

 

[tryptonaut]

I tried the extract yesterday night. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't that good either... The trip wasn't really strong, no visuals, no colors, however on a mental basis it was medium strong. It also felt really nice sometimes, there was no anxiety at all, but it had some kind of body-load that I didn't like. My pulse and blood pressure seemed pretty high and I really don't know if I could stand this with a higher dose.
From the psychedelic point of view I could have had at least twice as much though.

Well, another experiment that I'm not going to repeat because I like shrooms better plus they're easier to prepare

 

[alice]

so, what happened to ProStoner???

 

[Ilian]

i`m chewin em right now

his last words

 

[ProStoner]

well I answered that question on the dutch part also
but since u can't read that
i`ll tell it again
nothing happened
probably not enough seeds or so
i`m still convinced thatkeeping them in my mouth long enough 30 minutes..
while chewed into a pulp will be enough and thatI can spit out the leftovers
so that I dont have to have the crap in my stomache , thus reducing the nausea

 

[freak112]

hey ProStoner

do you know how many seeds i should eat for a good trip?
ik heb laatst 1 zakje van 10 seeds gehad maar voelde er wijnig van.

 

[Brewmaster]

My advice would be to start with 5. I'm a psychedelic hardhead and 5 seeds has always given me a good trip...... after the nausea.It does depend, somewhat on what kind of seeds they are. The most common is Indian woodrose seeds which are quite a bit less potent than Hawaiian. This plant actually came from India. Of course vendors call them all HBWR but places like IamShaman.com will specify where they were grown ( I don't know why Hawaiians are more potent?) I have also tried the chew and spit technique but got no effect. But like I said, start with 5 and soak them in water overnight so it will be easier to scrape the outer coating off the next day. Then either grind them up or pound them to pieces with a hammer and swallow. Enjoy the ride.

 

[DevXavier]

1) Brush your teeth.
2) Mouthwater to open up the thingies that take up the LSA (mondslijmvliezen in Dutch).
3) Keep the seeds in your mouth for about 30 minutes MINIMUM. Try to keep swallowing to a minimum and do not spit at all.

It'll work.

Edit: Chew a lot ofcourse.