Ladyfriend's First Time LSD (and with me!)

[drumcircle]

my girlfriend and i are planning to take some lsd together in two weeks,
in her room, at night, with some candles and nice lights along with a pleasant cd of music to listen to.
any advice / ideas / suggestions?

i want to make it really special for her, especially because its her first time taking acid, which we all know is pretty special to begin with.

thank you!
peace and love (not push and shove!)

 

[druglessdouglas]

dont fuss over her. let her get into her trip without constantly asking "are you all right?"
a couple of diazepam are always handy for emergencies, but make sure it is an emergency, not in your mind.

i hope you both have an excellent night

 

[Lion]

remember a trip lasts around 8 hours. make sure you can entertain both of you.

 

[magickmumu]

dont fuss over her. let her get into her trip without constantly asking "are you all right?"
a couple of diazepam are always handy for emergencies, but make sure it is an emergency, not in your mind.

i hope you both have an excellent night

what emergencie is so threatening that you need diazepam. When do you give of take diazepam??? what kind of emergencie do you have in mind?

 

[ararat]

remember a trip lasts around 8 hours. make sure you can entertain both of you.

entertain? were you ever bored at some point when tripping?

 

[Lion]

remember a trip lasts around 8 hours. make sure you can entertain both of you.

entertain? were you ever bored at some point when tripping?

never been bored lol.
but i got into negative thinkingspirals because of the lack of things to do.

 

[Forkbender]

never been bored lol.
but i got into negative thinkingspirals because of the lack of things to do.

dive deeper. Doing things for you is distraction.

 

[Lion]

never been bored lol.
but i got into negative thinkingspirals because of the lack of things to do.

dive deeper. Doing things for you is distraction.

mushrooms are my kind of way to dive deeper.
alice is too cold, too distant, ..

 

[Forkbender]

Fair enough, just make sure you are aware of the idea that there are regions within yourself that make you feel uncomfortable. Exploring these can really teach you a lot. *! You can also explore them on shrooms, of course.

 

[Lion]

Fair enough, just make sure you are aware of the idea that there are regions within yourself that make you feel uncomfortable. Exploring these can really teach you a lot. *! You can also explore them on shrooms, of course.

yeah i know.
i tried many times on alice though, most of the times it resulted into a negative thinking spiral.
alice always gets me hungry for new things in life. like learning something new(being a cook,..), that's what i use it for most.
shrooms go beyond that.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

a couple of diazepam are always handy for emergencies, but make sure it is an emergency, not in your mind.

Can you elaborate on that? What dose would you give to someone freaking out, and how much time does it take to have an effect? What exactly is the effect when someone is tripping? What if someone is not freaking out, then what is the combination of diazepam and psychedelics like?

 

[druglessdouglas]

a couple of diazepam are always handy for emergencies, but make sure it is an emergency, not in your mind.

Can you elaborate on that? What dose would you give to someone freaking out, and how much time does it take to have an effect? What exactly is the effect when someone is tripping? What if someone is not freaking out, then what is the combination of diazepam and psychedelics like?

it only takes 10-20mg to calm someone who is freaking out. it wont stop them tripping, just calm them down. diazepam is extremely safe in terms of toxicology. its only at huge doses it becomes a liver toxin. its dangerous in combination with alcohol only in that it stops you rolling over if you are sick, ie. you will drown

it takes around 20 minutes to take effect

combined with psychedelics in a "not freaking out" situation it will alow you to trip but dampens the cerebral side. you will still get the visual effects

diazepam taken before a trip will remove any anxiety you feel on the come-up

in combination with a large dose of Vitamin B3 (up to 3 grams, its water soluble and extremely safe) it will switch off LSD in half an hour.
the combination is used in hospital emergency departments for patients admitted after "freaking out" on LSD, though sometimes if the drug isnt known they will administer an anti-psychotic. i recomend vit B complex at 3-4 days dose as the B6 increases the absorbtion of B3 and speeds it all up.

usually the diazepam is enough.

 

[Brugmansia]

I discovered opium works really well for breaking down shrooms.

A few black dots under my tongue totally killed all waves of extended feelings with a fast stabilised model of my consciousness. My whole inner life got locked, felt pretty much sober apart from the visionary imagination.

I once tested this after 2 hours of tripping on 3 grams of mexicans. I actually got bored and wanted to add opium for making it more magical, but it turned out into a trip with only visuals, and no extended feelings, or the possibility to enter realms with closed eyes added at all. Turned totally solid and blue out of nothing.

I think on acid, the chemicals are doing better work, thorazine type-B. But only if there is a critical danger one should abandon a trip. The fear will be rewarded if one has been re-programmed to his own self, with a full self recognision and self control.

Although the breakdown of one's internal consciousness is much more powerful on shrooms than on acid.

 

[drumcircle]

where can i get diazepam, and what are some common brand names for it?
im thinking about having us listen to the cd "coquelicot asleep in the poppies" by of montreal, a great psychedelic pop album.
theres one track in particular, called "The events leading up to the collapse of detective dullight" which im rather excited to listen to.
its not really a song, its very close to the lines of a radio skit, but in a psychedelic nonsense way.

go download (or buy it it, i highly suggest it.

 

[druglessdouglas]

diazepam = valium

i havnt seen opium in years

 

[Mara]

On my first LSD experience I could not stay in the same room for a very long time. We also had a stroll in the park, and I must say it was one of the highlights of my trip. The sun was setting with intense red clouds and lights and there was a rainbow, it was almost too perfect, the colours were amazing. If there is any nature around your gf's appartement, and if the weather is good, I suggest visiting that world too. But only if she feels comfortable ofcoure.

EDIT: After the experience, point out that there is a great forum called Way of the Goddess.....

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I'd like to try out the combination with opium once. I've got chronic pain that is very uncomfortable and distracting during trips.

A few black dots under my tongue

Oh, it comes in lozenges too?

 

[Bastiaan]

remember a trip lasts around 8 hours

at least 10 for me.. :?

but i got into negative thinkingspirals because of the lack of things to do

I had that too once, at the end of a trip (+/-10 hours) when I tried to go to sleep when I was still tripping
But as fork says, even though it may be unpleasant, you can learn from this as well.

a couple of diazepam are always handy for emergencies

Somebody I knew once had valium prescribed by a doctor.
I asked him to save some for me multiple times.
It would'nt have taken any effort from him to do so but he didn't do it.
Because he's an asshole that does'nt really care or think about others needs

I've never really needed any though.
Does vitamin C work as well? I have some time released 1000mg tabs.

 

[Brugmansia]

I'd like to try out the combination with opium once. I've got chronic pain that is very uncomfortable and distracting during trips.

A few black dots under my tongue

Oh, it comes in lozenges too?

No, I got half a gram from a rare source. It just looks like black hash except it's totally different than THC. Really hard to describe. It resemblances with no other drugs. At high doses, I had similar visionary patterns that are found in the Quran, on Arabian furniture and spotted on many ancient buildings in South East Asia. But saw them very far away. Also noticed extreme calmness and reduction in the heart rate.

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The market in Europe seems completely gone. It is pretty much sad since I consider persian opium by far as the best painkiller I have ever encountered. It's much more effective and natural than asprine or ibuprofen. It's more like you 'forget' your pain instead of a chemical supression. Warmth and social approach are also strongly felt.

It has an extreme tolerance, 2nd time on the same day means at least doubeling the dose for equal effects. I try to smoke it rarely otherwise it's gone in like a few days. It then has an artestic, yoga like effect. The smoke has a very pleasant taste and turns out into nice patterns before it fades away.