kratom paste

[delphi]

I just wanted to share a quick tom administration method that my friend came up with this weekend. I have not heard of this one before but i'm sure someone out there has posted it so i apologize for any possible redundance.

Basically he took some powdered indonesian (and we finely powdered some bali and thai for the mix) and added just a small amount of water until the kratom formed a paste like consistency. He then rolled them into balls and let some of the water dry out so it solidified a bit. A large ball is placed in the back of the mouth and chased with some nice refreshing water, or in my friends case Beer...

I greatly prefer eating kratom over drinking the tea because it seems to act a bit longer for me and it slowly progresses up into the peak, which also seems to increase a bit in duration. I was simply chasing powdered kratom with water (learned quick not to use soda to chug it down) but I still had a major problem with gagging on the stuff.

This way seems to make it much more palatable (although the taste is quite nice IMO) and I am able to consume my desired dosage in a much more convenient, quick and efficient method for achieving a pleasant kratom experience.

I have about 30 kratom seedlings and plants (3''-6'' high) and I would like to do some further research on stressing them to produce a greater mitragynine yield. A friend swears by stressing them, claiming wildly that only a couple leaves (after reaching 2 1/2'' maturity) produces overwhelming effects. Perhaps using an HPS would help. I've also read that the time of year it is harvested at contributes to the characteristics of the end product either, directing the effects more towards either one side of the paradoxical attributes of this great botanical.

Thank you for your time and for allowing me to be a part of this growing community!


-delphi

 

[Kwarkfanaat]

Sounds like a reasonable idea mate! I just got my first Kratom, so I'll try that too.

Next to that I got some kind of extract which is very hard and should be cooked also. Does anyone know how such extract should be kept? Can I keep it in my drugs-suitecase or does it belong in a fridge?

Thanks!

 

[Jakobien]

I have just asked my colleague expert...saying: It is better to keep in in the fridge, dry and cool. But kratom that is kept outside the fridge might remain OK and potent for years aswell...

 

[Kwarkfanaat]

I have just asked my colleague expert...saying: It is better to keep in in the fridge, dry and cool. But kratom that is kept outside the fridge might remain OK and potent for years aswell...

Ok thanks mate(s) . I will keep it in my suitcase then. Problem is I'm living at my parents again....

 

[Brewmaster]

How do you plan on stressing them?

The only thing that I've read will help increase mytraginine is wind stimulation. I've got several large plants that stay outside for 9 months out of the year, I guess it's fairly windy here, but I'd say they're only as potent as the "premium commercial" grade that's available everywhere. I would assume that being outside of their native, tropical environment is one contributor to them not being more potent. The dough ball idea is a great one; also works well when dealing with powdered cactus. I still prefer to use crushed leaves as opposed to powder, easier to strain out of a tea. I just like using my little french press tea pitcher.

A friend swears by stressing them, claiming wildly that only a couple leaves (after reaching 2 1/2'' maturity) produces overwhelming effects.

I have to call BS here Even 5 huge leaves aren't going to equal even half of a gram once dried out. Considering I like to use 15-20g of "premium", I don't see 1/2g of anything producing "overwhelming effects". I'd love to be proven wrong though.

 

[delphi]

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A friend swears by stressing them, claiming wildly that only a couple leaves (after reaching 2 1/2'' maturity) produces overwhelming effects.


I have to call BS here Very Happy Even 5 huge leaves aren't going to equal even half of a gram once dried out. Considering I like to use 15-20g of "premium", I don't see 1/2g of anything producing "overwhelming effects". I'd love to be proven wrong though.

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Thats what I was thinking. Perhaps he is sensitive or anxious to succumb to placebo.

 

[delphi]

Well , the individual that I claimed stressed his plants to increase potency came into the shop today and gave me a small baggie with about a gram of dried leaf.. He told me to place it between my cheek and gum and hold it there for fourty five minutes. Within about 15 minutes I was suprised to feel the effects start coming on. No other substances were consumed alongside with the leaf (no cannabis, no meds, not even coffee and I was actually VERY drained and having a terrible morning).. The intensity of the taste was astounding, this recently freeze dried stressed leaf was extremely potent tasting so he assured me that he thoroughly washes the material when harvested. It has been approximately 45 minutes and I can say with certainty that it is indeed very very potent, perhaps equated to about 5 grams of Thai strain in tea. I have consumed fresh leaves from plants nearly 2 years old and the taste is very strong but for this dried leaf to taste even more bitter, i am suprised.

I'm not sure what his secret is but I will see if he can shed a little light and will share some of his cultivation process. The tom tree this was harvested from was at least four years old and had thick trunk.

I'm do not wish to spread rumor, hype or misinformation.. nor do I want anyone to be misled but I just want to verify that there may be some validity to stressing the plants to increase potency.

If anyone would care to expand on this with their personal knowledge of Kratom cultivation, or let me know if I myself have somehow been misled into believing something that may sound obsurd please let me know for misinformation is a virus that spreads all to rapidly and winds up with people in the hospital and high school kids licking toads.

Thank you and hopefully with enough knowledge and open mindedness we can apply such methods to our own personal kratom cultivation. I have about 15 plants 6''-12'' tall and am anxious to start experimenting with his technique once I figure out what it is.

All of the best,

-Del

 

[Alkoloidian]

YAY paste!! never though of that!! well i think the whole idea of stessing the plant is good take MJ for instance the bud they had in the 50's probly would not even give me a buzz its through years and years of cultivating and cloning and so on that we have stronger more potent plant no days.............so it will be a while..........


bye the way i need to purchuse a kratom tree anyone know where i can get a GOOD DEAL??

 

[mars]

Just paid $20 US for a nice size 1.5 year old tree plus $8.50 shipping
on EBAY. Just outgrowing it's 6 inch pot.