Is Salvia what everyone say that IT is!?

[Goran.Hrsak]

I try first time one gram of Salvia normal dry leafs in tea= NOTHING HAPPENS
Second time one gram of Salvia Normal dry leafs smoked in three or four inhalations through home made water pipe. And what happens? Little, but truly little buzz like uncomfortable cannabis high. Like cannabis effect but 2-3 hours after you smoke it! Just like morning joint but after some times from smoking.
And tell me now friends, should I try it again? I lost my faith in Salvia. I do not even consider her psydelic. After reading of psynauts experiences I can't agree with them!
Tell me if I am wrong and what should I do to experience the true Salvia effects. Thanx

 

[BrainEater]

Hey mate!

If you didn't feel any effects or so little, you are either probably immune according to a theory that some people are immune to it, or either smoked it wrongly or not enough. The thing is, you gotta smoke as much as possible as quickly as possible and you gotta smoke it right, so that the burning temperature point of salvia can be reached. Maybe you should give it a try at extract like 10x or 15x, but i don't know...Or you smoke two bongs right one after another. And of course: you need to keep the smoke like half a min or more if possible in your lungs, for the effects to kick in! Good Luck for the higher plateau!!! :weedman:

Peace!!! 8)


...Mind you to have respect for the Lady!!!

 

[Meduzz]

forget the immunity,

salvia is weird, i started with regular leaves like you did. also had the buzz.
you have to build up salvia. go to extract.
i felt that last time i smoked it, that i was "standing before the door".

now i'm waiting till the right moment to go trough it.

 

[Brugmansia]

She has a negative tolerance, which means that the more you use her regulary, the stronger she flies in you. And less powerful leaves are required.

Believe me, the first 5 times it still can be just a slight stoned feeling, because your body and mind needs to recognise her.

Everything looks normal, no visuals or environment hallucinations with opened eyes as with LSD/shrooms, but the change of terror hitting you is immense. Smoke it the right way, with your eyes closed and open when you've blown it out. Lay down, concentrate on the sensations in your body and mind, and there'll come a time when you are transponded to Salvia land. Though the tiny gate might be hard to crawl through.

It is seriously in no way comparable with shrooms and let alone acid, it's even hard to keep your identity.

There was a time I thought I was standing in front of my house on the street while I was in the bathroom at the same time. How I got there was truly a mystery, I just remembered smoking it on my couch... from there on I remember nothing. I wanted to open my frontdoor of my house with my keys then realised I was touching the mirror in my bathroom with my fingers.

I had abandoned it temporarly, it was kinda spooky since I didn't want to meet her too often. But it is a fantastic herb. The secret that lies beyond the small hole is the ancient past and the very further future.

 

[trick]

if you diddnt feel it with normal leaves, get 10x.

thats what i first did, and it worked great, but the second time was with normal leaves and i got the effects that you described above. so dont lose faith, get a higher concentration.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

This effects reminds me to glue 'movie' hallucinations! Here in Croatia psydelic effect from glue(tripping hard) we call 'FILM'.
Dropping out of body, finding yourself in train, castle, medieval age, future, as different person, becoming friend-take his 'shell' for period of time, living different persons lives, transformed into meat on grill(horror, experienced Hell from first hand), one time I have become aware of 'now time' in way that I am divine-hellish execs, that I have make my role in cosmic FILM-MOVIE which lasted 3 seconds in existence just like one of the pictures on movie play role(tape-lots of pictures and one is me), and one other me is replaced me for next future 3 seconds so cause that 3sec time is over and never again will be played and never again want be 'NOW', my body or reality-existence is going to be recycled for future 'ME'! And I have stand up from bed (this actually I done) and walk to the corner of room, crying and waiting to be decomposed by 'COSMIC FORCE'- HELLS IN HELLS-THE WORST KIND OF THE WORST BAD TRIPS-'FUCK, I HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT IS BEHIND DOORS OF DEATH. MY GOD, I EVEN CAN'T FIND WORD TO EXPLAIN HOW LIFE AFTER DEATH LOOKS LIKE BUT KNOW IT HELLIS WELL!

And I have inhaled 1gram in two hard and long lasting intake. Hold as much as I can. Third inhale was only some little remains. Maybe x? will do it. :wink:

 

[Meduzz]

good luck!

 

[twicon]

yeah dried leaves dont do much, my first time was with dried leaves and the only effect i had,was that i felt like i was floating and giggles.
2nd experience with 40x was succesfull, this plant is wonderfull and you may shit on your pants or youll create a six-pack from the laughs.
those days ill try with a friend the quid-method with some 10x organic sally

edit:salvinorin only works orally if you keep it in your mouth for it to be absorbed from the gums, so the tea was a waste of leaves..

 

[hasjiet]

The first 5 times i tried This wonderfull herb i diddn't felt much either. (leaves, 5X and 15X)
The 6th time (10X) i had the weirdest expierience of my life!

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

OK I got it. Salvia 1x is like weed but with fast closing effects. Yes, I feel it like that.
But now I am interested in yours stories bout effects of 5x, 10x, 15x, 20x, 30x(I have seen this amount somewhere!)
I do not like reading objective like erowid experiences! I NEED TO HEAR YOU MY PSYDELIC BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
What you have used and in which weight amount? Where you bought it and how did you like it?

Please friends, in fyu sentences write story. THANX

 

[Ultima]

hey, i just wanted to say that i have had A+ journeys with leaf. (the first leaf i got was bunkish, but the second stuff, a few big hits, and your in lala land.)

anyway, i highly recomend using www.bouncingB.com for a supply, all of their products are A+++ and pretty cheap. (they have a coupon you can use, future10, which give your 10% off everything)

you can get from folige, to standardized 20X (which by far blows anything i have ever experienced out of the water) when it comes to smoking the stuff,
i like to use my pipe, straight from denver. take a HUGE hit, hold it in for 30+ seconds, exhale, inhale next HUGE hit, 30+ seconds, and you wont be able to take another. physically/mentally impossible.

for doses, if using from the supplier i posted above, foliage, 3 big hits will do ya in, 5X 2 hits, 10-20X 1 hit should get you messed up. (when i say a hit, it means about .1-2 of a gram)

 

[HeartCore]

I try first time one gram of Salvia normal dry leafs in tea= NOTHING HAPPENS
Second time one gram of Salvia Normal dry leafs smoked in three or four inhalations through home made water pipe. And what happens? Little, but truly little buzz like uncomfortable cannabis high. Like cannabis effect but 2-3 hours after you smoke it! Just like morning joint but after some times from smoking.
And tell me now friends, should I try it again? I lost my faith in Salvia. I do not even consider her psydelic. After reading of psynauts experiences I can't agree with them!
Tell me if I am wrong and what should I do to experience the true Salvia effects. Thanx

I though so too.....

Do like I did

Get some extracts (like 10x), put one gram in a waterpipe telling yourself 'this is fucking smartshop placebo bullshit. Use torch lighter, smoke the entire bowl and hold in the smoke as long as you can. If you want, while holding the smoke, put another half gram of 10x to be sure.

Have a sitter

Be amazed...

HAVE a sitter!!!!!

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I try first time one gram of Salvia normal dry leafs in tea= NOTHING HAPPENS
Second time one gram of Salvia Normal dry leafs smoked in three or four inhalations through home made water pipe. And what happens? Little, but truly little buzz like uncomfortable cannabis high. Like cannabis effect but 2-3 hours after you smoke it! Just like morning joint but after some times from smoking.
And tell me now friends, should I try it again? I lost my faith in Salvia. I do not even consider her psydelic. After reading of psynauts experiences I can't agree with them!
Tell me if I am wrong and what should I do to experience the true Salvia effects. Thanx

I though so too.....

Do like I did

Get some extracts (like 10x), put one gram in a waterpipe telling yourself 'this is fucking smartshop placebo bullshit. Use torch lighter, smoke the entire bowl and hold in the smoke as long as you can. If you want, while holding the smoke, put another half gram of 10x to be sure.

Have a sitter

Be amazed...

HAVE a sitter!!!!!

Why I need sitter? If effect wears off after 15-45min? Can epileptic attack emerge or something else? Why I need sitter? Nowadays it is hard to find sitter who want start to ask 'And what do you feel, You are wasted and so on!', sitter can be killer for psychic or inducer of bad-dark-hellish trip!

 

[twicon]

smoke it with a small pipe for direct hits and have a ''test hit'' first.
i discovered a new face of lady salvia with some 5x extract that came as gift on my last order, me and a friend prepared mentally for the ussual ''rough trip'' but we found a mellow meditative aspect of that plant, i had no thoughts at all and my mind was in a infinitive nothigness state with zero psychedelic effects(1/4 of 5x gram)

heres a link: http://www.maps.org/research/salvia/sdmeditation.html

I have some 40x but i avoid it for now...

 

[Meduzz]

Why I need sitter?

your balance is waay disorted, chances are high that you might stand up and fall over and hurt yourself.

also it may hit you so hard, you drop the (burning) pipe and cause a fire.

of course if you keep these things in mind, you can use salvia without sitter. but if you find a sitter, use him/her.

 

[HeartCore]

Why I need sitter? If effect wears off after 15-45min? Can epileptic attack emerge or something else? Why I need sitter? Nowadays it is hard to find sitter who want start to ask 'And what do you feel, You are wasted and so on!', sitter can be killer for psychic or inducer of bad-dark-hellish trip!

Some people (talking from personal experience and a lot of trip reports), sometimes start to wander around on Salvia without realizing it. Trashing their, or someone else's place, trashing windows, entering the street naked (not from personal experience).

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

OK, maybe someone who let's whole self to trip! I am over 10 years psydelic user and XP those behavior at beginning but now,? do not think so.
But if you have to say something bout XP psydelic user, Say it.

 

[Ultima]

i didnt qutite understand what you said there.. are you saying because your experienced that you can handle lady sal? because if thats your thoughts then your alll wrong. one word to describe sal is mindfuck. you dont know what the fuck is up or down, left or right. its just completely confusing. (in my experiences, and i have a LOT of experience with sal, and every trip is completely different.. well the feeling of it hit you isnt exactly plesent either.) i usually get the feeling of needles coming out of my poors, while you sweat pretty hard. (on occasion sweat). and yeah, be prepard to die.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Why I need sitter? Nowadays it is hard to find sitter who won't start to ask 'And what do you feel, You are wasted and so on!', sitter can be killer for psychic or inducer of bad-dark-hellish trip!

By definition a sitter is someone who does not do the things you just described. That may apply to "someone sitting nearby", but not to a "sitter". The sitter must be present, but not intrusive. To be a sitter is a very responsible job. Comparable to that of a shaman, but without the ritual, song and healing. Comparable to that of a psychologist, but without the psycho-analysis.

In the case of Salvia, however, the main purpose of the sitter is to be a body guard. People may very well hurt themselves or their surroundings in the few minutes of Salvia's effects.

 

[twicon]

personally i hate having a sitter with salvia.. trips tend to become badder.
smoke some on mdma.... wow