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ILL-UMINATI OR KILLUMINATI OR JUST ILLUMINATI?

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Because secret society are surrounded by mystery there is a lot of speculation about the goal of the illuminati. There is so much disinformation that it's almost impossible to reach a conclusion about the illuminati.


My own speculation is that there is a force that is trying to put the world in a box.
A new world order, where everything is standardized and controllable.
 
The illuminati....

I theorize The Illuminate Or The Enlightend Ones, Are a band of possibly 200 fallen angels as talked about in Chapter 6 of the Book of Genesis in the Christian Bible and further more from Chapter 6 in the Book of Enoch. Also recorded in time as the Sumerians, A very knowledgable race by all accounts and responsible for the tale of Nibiru.

According to the religious texts the angels fell in lust of the daughters of men, Giants are bore by the daughters of men to the fallen angels. These Giants were called the Nephilim, A vile race who later become the men of renown according to the texts. (I once saw a youtube video of an asian reporter on a beach just after the massive Tsunami in Thailand and she was reporting on a VERY BIG Skeleton that the Tsunami had uncoverd.)

The Book of Enoch talks further more of the Fallen Angels and there attempts to get back into Heaven, However they are destined to the earth for eternity as punishment. After the fallen angels decent and much Godlessness and Evil ways on the earth, God commands Noah to build an Ark in order to save his pure blood line from Adam and to make sure that 2 of every animal that wouldn't survive the flood outside the Ark were looked after inside. God floods the earth because of people and thier wicked ways. When the water has settled and life continues comes the construction of Babel, At this time the world speaks one language and everyone is in unison but the reason they are building the tower is to reach God. When God see's what they are doing he is annoyed, comes down to thier tower and states "Behold the people as one and they all have one language, And this they begin to do and now nothing will be restrained to from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis Ch 11 Vs 6)

Chapter 11 Vs 7, Goes on to tell us that God scatterd the people and confused them with division of languages to put a spanner in the works of the fallen angels / men. Men become enslaved by the smarter "Enlightend Ones" who possibly became such races as the Egyptians, The Romans , Etc

Over time people advanced and fast foreward to lets say Hitler, Hitler was a perfect tool. He did his job well, He united nations in a common goal. To get the bad man....

Not long after the 60's comes around and people are talking about telepathic/universal/transdental connections and end times :rolleyes: , not to mention free love... I see this as the kill them with Kindness approach, they sell us a lie. Tell us we are all connected all is one, Bhuddism and eastern philosophy, free love...

Now people take life for granted and the world is full of STI, Let the Dirty Monkeys wipe themselves out?

So what is the case one is probably asking by now?

What if those fallen angels want you to stay here too? Just like the snake in the garden, Jealous of the attention God gave to Adam and Eve...
The illuminate argue that God is a jealous God and Lucifer was offering Adam and Eve free will. Sounds more like Lucifer was jealous, offering Adam and Eve everything God had, to come with him.

However, In the garden of Eden I theorize the Pineal Gland was secreting DMT maybe at the same level today, Maybe more?
The one significant difference being that the pineal gland at that time had alot less brain matter to regulate, Which is proven thru archealogical digs and scientific research that the brain matter (Lobes and Cortex's) did not form untill man began to eat meat and take in complex protiens.

Adam and Eve were told if you eat of this fruit you will die, To die means to be seperated.

In conclusion I theorize we are subjectively experiencing seperation untill final judgement but at the same time being influenced by condemned spirits who wish to not suffer alone for eternity by any means possible.

* All the above is a mere speculation and I have no solid fact to support anything I say :roll: 8)
 
My two cents:

Illuminati was a bohemian thing. They were powerful, but currently I'd likely put more emphasis on a Bilderberg Group/Mason conspiracy theory then them.

As for purpose, I like the way someone once put it (really don't remember one of the disadvantages of far too much time from point A to B) - "Men without souls are best left to politics". That's the thing, if you want to rule, whether it be a debauchery-inducing Viking recon team or a full-fledged republican democracy, you have to be ready to be flexible enough to not have emotions/feelings/attachments. Hence why any civilization is at best, running out the clock. Could there be a New World Order fast approaching? Yeah. Could there be a plan to create all humans into basically lab rats, exchanging needs for wants? Definitely. At the end of the day, the real question is, does anyone really have enough time in their life to fight invisible shadows on a doomsday that may or may not come?

My opinion: Prepare the mind, body, and soul, try to teach it to your kids, and the rest is history.
 
The Illuminate was just the name the once organised members picked in Bavaria.

Where did the first enlightend ones come from? History tells us The Sumerians had untold knowledge of roots, plant, planets and much more.

The Mason's, Bilderbergs and any other masonic lodges are all apart of the pyramid.

Is it totally possible some world leader(s) wants to enslave the human race for mere fun or added security?

Or

Is this a battle that has been going on for a very long time concerning the freedom of each individuals soul?

I believe they are working to create a new world of Unison, The EU, The NAU, The UN. All popped up in the last 70 years, Since the invention of telephones and internet no one is truelly isolated. In the last 60 years the message has been comming out of asian countrys that people dont die in thier religion they are reincarnated, So people value life less.

I must admit the one thing that got me posting on here again is the amount of people talking about suicide and how when tripping they have been tempted by entity's or thoughts they wouldnt call thier own.
I believe when you take a psychedelic substance you open yourself up to intense reading between senses, Most people when tripping notice things to do with brainwashing and media controlled influences. Some also experience entitys, from what I keep reading here, Entitys that try and provoke you to kill yourself....

So lets say for instance when your tripping your reading between the lines of your standard senses and you encounter an entity which trys to provoke you to end your life??? Instantly my back goes up, Is that a supressed thought within the tripping subject or is it an entity left dwelling on earth trying to get you to join it for eternity?
 
Zecheria Sitchin was among the first researchers who pointed the Nephilim and the Anunaki.
He claimes that the human raced was created by Aliens who called themselves the Anunaki or the Nephilim and who came from the planet Nibiru. According to Sitchin the humans where created to work in gold mines.
There has been a lot of criticism of his work and most of his college's don't take his work serious.
Despite all the criticism Sitchin's theory's have had a big effect on the culture.
People like David Icke and Micheal Tsarion who are inspired by Sitchin's work.


Personally I am interested in and open to these ideas.
However I am not satisfied with the evidence.
 
obviously evidence of times long since they have passed is harder to bring out, so why not research alien influences in our century??? why make your belief-system dependant of supposed evidence from 2000 or 10000 or 231545 years ...
 
Without understanding ones begining, How may one understand ones end?

Is the Alien Influence recognized, If existed?
If so, how does one examine it over the past century?
 
one can examine it by being curious and investigate information, before it is being manipulated... or investigate the material while being aware that it is manipulated and find out what possibly is manipulated and what not.

as i understand it you can see their ships sometimes with your own eyes too, but it's not easy, as they are said to be able to move VERY fast and you can't really rely on footages because either the ships influence the cameras with electromagnetic-fields or it can't be seen cuz it's too fast, or in a light not visible frequency to our eyes or just manipulated material...

so well as i find it interesting i will research it a bit and if i find a definite proof i will show it to you but of course if you want you can research for yourself too... :P
 
I think it's important to know what happened in the beginning.
If you build a theory you need facts and evidence to support it.
I am not willing to blindly believe any theory that goes around.
When there is no prove or disprove for a theory it remains a mystery.

I have been doing my own little research into these realms. I have not jet reach a conclusion about these matters.
 
No one is asking you to believe anything but yourself mate...

I said "I had a theory", I even put a disclaimer at the bottom of my post and not once did I ask any one else to believe in what I had posted.

Each to their own :)
 
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think about it...governments have interest in not letting this go to the public as their levels of control over "their" populous probably decreases ... the existence of a benevolent alien race reduces their pressure element which is control for making our lives easier, but we don't want to let our lives be made easier by lies! i mean the capitalistic system that is going on in most of the "civilized" world is ok because it somehow works, but it also makes people unaware of what could really be going on, because they invest so much energy in work, money and often unfulfilling, dramatic, possibly hating, selfish, material-worshipping relationships etc etc but well what also might be going on is that the aliens themselves don't have so much interest to be publically known on wider scales although some people claim that this might already be the case...

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i also heard the alien race took the interventions they supposedly had been taking for good reasons and that they want to help us and also propagate peace and therefore want all weapons of mass destruction be destroyed or sealed or whatever...

i don't know whether it matters to the truth of this what was in the beginning as it seems to me if it were true these races would've mastered space-time and space and time which could be a sign of superiority. see if they really have the propulsion systems and computers, computational system which they appear to have then they can materialize their ships from lights (=photons =/= mass) into stable mass (=/= light). but well as i said i haven't seen them for real so i can't confirm you their existance...
 
Remember the Simpsons episode where the aliens talk humanity into getting rid of all their guns and weapons, and then take over... lol.

Actually what bugs me the most is that if there is extraterrestrial life, why do they care what our government thinks? Why not just present themselves and prove there case. I'm pretty sure most of humanity would choose their message over any single governments (you know, being able to travel through space super fast gives you all kinds of street cred).
 
yes, but then THEY have become our shepherds, an unenviable task for sure.

Maybe they have determined that we aren't 'truly' intelligent, since we keep listening to their lies, cannot organize well enough to resist them, and are so passive about it, AND so distractable.....



perhaps they have concluded, ( and justly so, from the evidence ) that we aren't ready for them


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obviously, but maybe we really aren't ready for them as our concept of reality is not exactly limited by not knowing them but possibly limited and therefore they wait for a better time to reveal their plans etc to all of us and maybe that time is 2012??ß but well who knows maybe they will come earlier but maybe 2012 really something WILL happen i don't know about all this galactic alignment stuff if its true or not and what it matters but maybe if they can help us they will if they are really benevolent, but maybe they will help us to purge "our enemies" so who knows if there REALLY is a "galactic" threat or a global threat. i hope if they are there that they can prevent all the governments and military acting stupidly with "the ultimate tools for destruction".


regarding the illuminati: will they let destroy big ben? or will it be prevented??
hmm i wonder whether the strange symbolism in the lord of the rings and other books has to do something with it, i mean like the book has signs of the future in it somehow, just like the bible supposedly has?

never mind this video just take it as a sign of what COULD be going on ... think about it
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peace :weedman:
 
i think so too. the metaphor is with evolution and survival as a species... you know reptiles are "cold-blooded"...
it's like these evil illuminati, if they exist, don't want us to care about each other... and well i think the word "illuminati" (the enlightened) is just a title or something like that like "christ" (the anointed) and hence it's probably not a metaphor, but often being used as one. the term illuminati even can be applied to all beings on earth, as we are all repetitively being illuminated by our sun and the "light" of our consciousness. but i mean all the capitalistic bullshit etc going on is just "their" way of distracting us, making us dependant on "them" wanting us to believe their "us" is better than our "us", implying they could be better "shepherds", but then i see "their" puppetry and it's disgusting, as they see us in their megalomaniac game with the lust for controlling us puppets lol but well it depends a bit on us really being their puppets too if you know what i mean ...
 
Sticki a dit:
No one is asking you to believe anything but yourself mate...

I said "I had a theory", I even put a disclaimer at the bottom of my post and not once did I ask any one else to believe in what I had posted.

Each to their own :)

That's good because I don't need believe. I just want to review the information with an open mind.
History has been manipulated and knowledge kept secret by the church and the brotherhoods.
 
BrainEater a dit:
i think so too. the metaphor is with evolution and survival as a species... you know reptiles are "cold-blooded"...
it's like these evil illuminati, if they exist, don't want us to care about each other... and well i think the word "illuminati" (the enlightened) is just a title or something like that like "christ" (the anointed) and hence it's probably not a metaphor, but often being used as one. the term illuminati even can be applied to all beings on earth, as we are all repetitively being illuminated by our sun and the "light" of our consciousness. but i mean all the capitalistic bullshit etc going on is just "their" way of distracting us, making us dependant on "them" wanting us to believe their "us" is better than our "us", implying they could be better "shepherds", but then i see "their" puppetry and it's disgusting, as they see us in their megalomaniac game with the lust for controlling us puppets lol but well it depends a bit on us really being their puppets too if you know what i mean ...


I know what you mean.
We need to look at the self first. The control is for a big part psychological. So getting to know the psyche is essential.
Psychedelics can be tools to help us free the mind.

If they are controlling us it's because we let them. Because we are not aware.
What we need is awareness.
 
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