I got some Salvia for a first time

[DaFuZzMaStA]

I got some Savlia for the first time. 20x, i figured that it would be neccesary to have a jet lighter to have any effect. I wanted to try a small dose to see what would happen, so i packed a small bowl and used a bic lighter, holding the lighter immediately above the herb for the duration of the hoot, and held the hoot in for about 30 seconds
at first, i felt nothing, and i was kind of confused, and then I got a pretty intense body high. My legs felt as of a statue, but I didn't seem to be hallucinating. My first response was a small wave of fear, of why I hadn't slipped into something yet. I stood up, and for a second thought i was dreaming, and the specific idea that the objects in the room were fake. I walked for a second, realized that i should sit down, and i felt fine after that. started watching some south park, and only felt somewhat sedated, if you would call it that.
I'm just wondering, if i DO need a jet lighter, what a good dose would be to start out with (in grams? i have a scale), if there is anything else i should know. I want to make sure i have a comfy trip.
I have quite a bit experience with mushrooms and acid, a bit with 2cb, Dramamine/dxm, as far as hallucinogens and dissociatives go, but not salvia.

 

[Subtle_Nod]

There is not complete agreement about how long to hold your breath. I mention this in passing - I find that it does help.

Can you be sure you managed 30 seconds or thereabouts? It might help to have a timer that beeps.

Some people are "hardheaded" and they don't feel anything/a lot the first time or for a few times after - some say it takes the brain time to adjust to the substance, some say it takes time to get the technique. I do not have an opinion on why it is like this, but from my experiences and others I know, it is true.

It may help to keep trying.

Reverse tolerance is also generally agreed upon - that is, the more you have used it, the less you need to use.

As for dosage:

1 gram of 5X
# 20 light doses (each dose being .05g) OR
# 10 moderate doses (each dose being .10g) OR
# 4 strong doses (each dose being .25g)

This means that for your 20X, you scale it as it is 4 times stronger, you need four times less and get four times more per gram (I do not claim my maths are perfect, but I trust that someone else will spot any mistakes I have):

1 gram of 20X
# 80 light doses (each dose being .0125g) OR
# 40 moderate doses (each dose being .025g) OR
# 16 strong doses (each dose being .0625g)

I would recommend starting with a few light doses, the a few moderate doses then some stronger doses - this will give you time to adjust and make use of the reverse tolerance.

Of course, 1 strong dose of 5x is exactly the same as an equivalent does in the 20x table in strength - it just requires that you smoke more. (Assuming the vendor is honest)

The advantage of the 5X is it is 4 times easier to measure out - splitting 1 gram into 80 for light doses in the case of the 20X and doing it well is quite challenging.

I hope that helps some.

EDIT: how are you smoking it - I have had more success in a small pipe than a bong.

 

[GOD]

Salvia like sniffing glue is not my thing as i see no point in thinking i`m a table leg or a chair but heres my sixpence worth .

I have been told that the active compounds in salvia are very volatile and heat sensative = it doesnt like bongs . I have never had any effects from smoking it . The first few times i chewed the leaves also didnt do anything but then after a few trys it blew my head off . I`ve heard that from loads of other people to .

 

[restin]

DaFuZzMaStA: I had the exactly same experience while smoking it in a bong. It was like waking up. I've used a bong, I prefer it because in a pipe it really scratches the throat, also it is easier (my opinion) to hold it down with a bong because you take a fast,deep breath. But to the comment of GOD: I also heard that it needs hot temperatures. I dunno if puttin hot water into the bong is ok (?) or if you can leave away the water...cuz in pipes I have to cough...