Echinocereus triglochidiatus

[rango]

Ciao, qualcuno conosce le caratteristiche di questo cactus, e i suoi effetti?


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Echinocereus triglochidiatus
Un "Pitallito" che dona "alte capacità mentali" Come l'E. salm-dyckianus viene 'cantato' durante la raccolta. Di questo debole "falso peyote" si è pensato, in passato, producesse un derivato della "typtamine" (Schultes e Hofmann, 1992), ma studi chimici pubblicati hanno localizzato solo N,N-dimethylhistamine.; N, N-dimethylhistamine


12/03
nessuno nessuno?

 

[Novello]

Ho capito rango!
Hai un languorino. Non è proprio fame ma più... voglia di qualcosa di buono

Prova a cercare informazioni in inglese, qui e nel web in generale. Magari trovi qualcosa di più.
...e poi riporti qui il frutto delle tue ricerche

 

[rango]

ahah! si è più un languorino:-o
qualche breve ricerca l'ho fatta, vedo cosa trovo, l'obbiettivo è capire se può essere consumata, e l'utilizzo che nne faceva e se ne può fare!

ecco cosa ho trovato:

Esistono innumerevoli varietà di cactus psicoattivi....attualmente sono conosciute circa 300 piante di cactus che possono essere classificate come psicoattive. ................l'Echinocereus triglochidiatus, contiene sicuramente una potente sostanza psichedelica: la 5-MeO-DMT. Molti cactus vengono anche usati per scopi terapeutici, infatti un gran numero di esemplari di cactus sono commestibili. (da sito ********)

USE: Some Native Americans collect the stems, burn off the spines and mash them. Sugar is added and then it is baked to make sweet cakes.
Parts Used: pulp, flowers and stems

Cultivation: This cactus is widely cultivated for its flowers. It is among the easiest species to grow, flower and propagate. Water regularly from March to October. Rot prone in winter, it needs good drainage. Claret Cups require strong sunlight to maintain a healthy appearance, and a harsh "dry and cool" winter environment combined with maximum light exposure enhances spring flower production.
Frost Tolerance: Depends on the variety: Var. arizonicus is hardy to -6° C, the other varieties are much more cold resistant (some populations can tolerate temperatures down to -25° C or less)

Family: Cactaceae
Genus: Echinocereus
Species: salm-dyckianus, triglochidiatus
These cacti growing in Mexico are known to Tarahumare Indians as peyote or hikuli and used in their festivals. E. triglochidiatus contains a tryptamine derivative, possibly 5-MeO-DMT (Bye 1979). E. salm-dyckianus is also supposed to contain tryptamines according to Horus Botanicals catalog 1992. (fonte erowid)


Reputed hallucinogenic plants of the Tarahumara
The following plants comprise those cacti and herbs reported to be
agents which, when ingested, cause visual, auditory, tactile, or other hallu
cinations. In many cases these plants are considered by the Tarahumara as
beings which can cause harm if misused. ............... Echinocereus triglochidiatus Engelm., in Wisliz., Mem. Tour North. Mex.,
1848,p.93
E. salm-dyckianus Scheer, in Seemann, Bot. Voy. Herald, 1856, p. 291
Tarahumara name: "hikuri"; "wichuri"
Mexican name: "pitallita"
Informants from the sierras and barrancas indicate that these plants
(Figs. 5, 6) are "hikuri" of the sierras and can be used in the same manner
as the preceding types although they are not as powerful. Once, while I was pressing specimens of these plants, an old Tarahumara addressed the cut stems and flowers and began singing to them. This singing was done so that
the plants would not feel offended by my ruthless actions. Lumholtz (1902)
mentioned Echinocactus (although his illustration is Echinocereus) along
with the other species of Mammillaria (the original generic determinations of
the various "hfkuris") as having "high mental qualities". A species of Echino
cereus is reported to contain an alkaloid (Willaman and Schubert, 1961).
McLaughlin (personal communication, 2 March 1977) says that preliminary
tests on Tarahumara plants of E. triglochidiatus indicate the presence of
a tryptamine derivative, possibly AT,iV-dimethyl-5-methoxytryptamine — the
first record of its presence in this genus
(libro: hallucinogeniic plants of the tarahumara, Bye RA Jr)