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DMT in Naptha

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IJesusChrist

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How yellow should the Naptha be? I was looking at a friends example that he does not have... and it looked almost color-less. He did have quite a bit of naptha, and the emulsion seemed to settle fairly quickly.

But it should have a fairly potent color, no?
 
Sorry , off topic . Its time people start to realize that naptha isnt the same in every country . Definately German naptha and US naptha are not the same . Thats probably why some people have problems with some extractions . It would be better in my opinion if people would talk about the type of solvent and its boiling / evaporation point and not just mentioning a local name for their product in formulas and recipies .
 
GOD a dit:
Sorry , off topic . Its time people start to realize that naptha isnt the same in every country . Definately German naptha and US naptha are not the same . Thats probably why some people have problems with some extractions . It would be better in my opinion if people would talk about the type of solvent and its boiling / evaporation point and not just mentioning a local name for their product in formulas and recipies .

VM&P Naptha is naptha...
And it shouldn't matter too much, a non-polar colorless solvent should carry a yellow tinge no matter what it's structure if it truly is dissolving the appropriate molecules.
 
carreful

there is" naphta lourd hydrotraité " naphta lourd brut" et" naphta lourd desaromatisé" (in french)

i've studied chemical cursus and the naphta is different One shop to other , spain or france ....

read "well" what its writed on bottle . take care
 
I've always use Zippo lighter naptha/fluid. That seems to work as well in the US as in France as in the Netherlands.
 
Ok then help me out!! You're not answering my post - how yellow should to solvent be? How yellow does yours get isn't it colorless to begin with?

My friends extraction that he doesn't have is still almost colorless after he has A/B extracted and naptha'd it. ?!

If 0 was the color of water and 10 was the color of Mountain Dew, I'd say my solution is a 2-3.
 
How the fuck should anyone know what you ask ? Just tell the person you dont know and have never met that they should wait and see if / what comes out .
 
honestly, who cares? the colour doesnt matter. what does matter are the crystals you end up with at the end. if your freaking out about how much other crap is in the lighter fluid take a 1/4 bottle of the fluid, set it out to dry, and if the peice of glass, tray comes up clean, it will be good to use. iv always been a fan of ronsonol lighter fluid. seems to be very clean/pure.
 
Pure nn-dmt is crystal clear. Yellow is from impurities, so if you did an extensive defat the naphta is clear.

Heartcore (I probably already told you), try coleman fuel, I think the quality isn't less maybe even better. And it sure is cheaper. You can buy it in a campingstore.
 
Kinda confused.

For whatever reason my math seems fucked up, I'm calculating my pH by hand since my pH papers are missing + I have no legend to tell me whats what.

Does the pH REALLY need to be around ~1 with acid,
does it really need to be around ~11 with basification?

This pH range seems extreme, also is alot of DMT held in the orangy-red emulsion? I have 1mm thick emulsion right now, and I'm wondering if I should evap that too?
 
PH 1 will kill it quick and without litmus paper you cant have a clue what the PH is . All this shit with letting things stand for more than a few hours just kills the content . Plus if youve done it right you shouldnt have an emulsion . Separate the emulsion out and do another extraction with it .
 
All the extractions I see ar pH 1, pH 11, and you CAN know pH with some highschool chemistry, GOD.

And it shouldn't be killed by letting stand, unless your pH is very high or very low.

Anyways. Week days come n swim will be testing stuffs.
 
IJesusChrist a dit:
All the extractions I see ar pH 1, pH 11, and you CAN know pH with some highschool chemistry, GOD.

And it shouldn't be killed by letting stand, unless your pH is very high or very low.

Anyways. Week days come n swim will be testing stuffs.

PH 11 will give you snot, not crystal but by all means, find out and fuck up for yourself, it's the best way to not forget. Once you are here, try to aim for 13. 13 works, 11 won't.

Highschool chemistry will tell you 11, stick with that and you won't have any yield.
 
HeartCore a dit:
Once you are here, try to aim for 13. 13 works, 11 won't.

Is this sarcasm? Cause I really don't need sarcasm in this thread.
 
I dont see any sarcasm there . I see good sound advice from someone who knows what they are talking about and is trying to help you . You need PH 13 . With extractions its either do it right or fuck it up .
 
Why does the pH need to be SOOOOO HIGH. I don't understand how a higher pH would make more DMT soluble in a non-polar solvent - this seems counter intuitive to me.
 
think: less soluble in a polar solvent
 
Mr.Smith a dit:
think: less soluble in a polar solvent

So you just fucking rape the shit with OH? So weird... it seems like ahh ok i guess that makes some more sense though.
 
pH 11 is probably high enough to extract most of the alkaloids, the problem is that the waterfase has a high viscosity so often you have problems with emulsions, between 12-13 the viscosity drops significant so the layers separate much more easier.
 
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