DMT...i want it...

[ICEKOHLD]

i've actually participated in the Ayahuasca ritual but i've yet to acquire DMT in my travels. i've seen many a sites giving instructions on how to extract it but i don't know that i trust it. wrong instructions could be deadly. so, i figured i'd post on here, ask advice from people who've successfully extracted it and wait and see who responds with what. i figure that if i get bad instructions from a person/persons, other will post right behind them that it is wrong. so, kinda bring it up before the "committee" and see what the general response is. i know that the average hallucinogen user won't lead another astray so i assumed that this would be the safest and most accurate way to get instructions. i know that it probably won't compare to Ayahuasca but you know us nauts...always looking for the next question...

 

[Jeniger]

There are really good tek's out there, i have worked with this one and i'm still alive
http://www.entheogen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9217

Some other tek's are more difficult wich produce a somewhat cleaner product.. The dmt that is extracted this way(lazy mans tek) still had a purity of 99% For a first try it's perfect imo

The only thing needed is just taking time to read in on the tek, its really simple.

Ps:take care... even the most purest dmt can be deadly .....for your ego/human experience

 

[ICEKOHLD]

i don't believe in true ego death. your ego is what you drives you to survive. God created you to have an ego so that you would strive to achieve His love. i believe in killing the selfishness of one's ego. is not the mere act of exclaiming that you've "killed your ego" and telling others about it so they have something to look forward to or fear egotistical? trying to let the person you're talking to know that you've reached another state of enlightenment is egotistical. it's implying that you're further along than them. you might very well be further along than me but by telling me you're not being very humble about it, now are you? too many nauts trick themselves into thinking they're ego is dead. then, i see that they smoke cigarettes, overeat, have sex. all the things that gratify their body. the ego is just a search for wordly gratification.

 

[Jeniger]

The point i was trying to make with the joke is that dmt can be extremely serious stuff, also after dozens of nice trips, i truly experienced death on dmt. Not only my ego that was gone,but afther being unconious and slowly regaining consiousness I was truly convinced i extracted it the wrong way and i was dead because of this.... This is the reason why i will not be using it anymore anytime soon. Your scareness of dying because of wrong extraction reminded me of this. It was nothing like an "ego death"on shrooms. I dont care so much of theories about ego death fighting over words and interpretations...at the end most of the time we all mean the same. I only know that i never want to experience death on dmt again, and dmt is not something to be taken lightly. I'll stick with the other psychedelics for now :wink:

 

[ICEKOHLD]

and you're tight. this shouldn't be an argument. not my intention and if it seemed that way, i apologize. like i said, i've experienced Ayahuasca and that was great. 8 hour dmt trip (from what i'm told...never done dmt) and it was amazing! scary shit, too. there's something to be said about the natural hallucinogens vs lsd. lsd is extremely intense and life altering (to me) but it is empty. it is more a sense of my conscious whereas the naturals i've tried (mushrooms, Ayahuasca, mescaline) were more a sense of God conscious. thanks for the input and if i seemed argumentative and/or ungrateful, i apologize. i'm asking a question, not making a statement, so i shouldn't combat the responses in any form. thanks for the input brother...

 

[DaZeD]

You NEED an ego, you wouldn't have a backbone without ego, every single being has one, even the most shanty person on earth, probably a huge ego aswell, but it's possible to loose yourself completely when tripping on a very high level, when you don't know who or what you are you probably have no ego anymore at that time.

But it comes back though, ego recovers very fast.

I extract my DMT using the Nomans guide, if i can do it, sure as hell you can do it!
It takes absolutly no skills at all to make clean NN-DMT if you follow the instructions carefully, the only thing you will need is lot's of patience, that's all.

What you need to buy is, Mimosa Hostilis, Lye, and Hexane, when you have these you can start to extract.

 

[ICEKOHLD]

where can i find the noman's guide you're talking about?

 

[Jeniger]

there's something to be said about the natural hallucinogens vs lsd. lsd is extremely intense and life altering (to me) but it is empty. it is more a sense of my conscious whereas the naturals i've tried (mushrooms, Ayahuasca, mescaline) were more a sense of God consciou

I completly agree, i am still doubting wheter dmt has this god consious or not,personally, i can get feeling of love and oneness, but in a teacher kind of way dmt is empty for me, or too fast too handle. I wonder what the generall opinions are about dmt from experienced ayahuasca users. Have not used aya myself.

I didnt notice any combat, only a enthousiastic psychedelic explorer on the same quest as i am :weedman:

 

[DaZeD]

Yes Jeniger, i'm on the same boat as you, smoked DMT never really teached me anything yet, it's too short indeed, it's just a pure visual trip combined with a sense of unconditional love, when the trip is done i feel very relaxed and filled with love, and i can see things in a different spectrum (filosophical), but that doesn't last long either.

DMT is magic, strangeness, amazing, but too short to learn from it imo.

I also agree about LSD, i perfer mushrooms way over acid, mushrooms can be harsh and dark, but that's nothing compared to the darkness LSD can produce.

On the other hand, LSD can be lot's of fun too, but it has something false to it, that mushrooms don't seem to have.
BTW, who knows what they put on a blotter anyways?
When you take mushrooms you know what you get.

 

[EndlessEntity]

yea... human consciousness requires homeostasis of the ego, and the id

there should be a balance of unity and individuality or we'd be like the fuckin borg

 

[IJesusChrist]

For bringing up this old topic, I'll have to disagree with both of them that DMT doesn't usually give meaningful answers.

DMT has given me everything a mushi trip ever has, and more. It has revealed everything I've ever wanted to be confronted with, and has shown me everything I could possibly imagine. Love, hate, anger, fear, bliss, meaning... It is my cure-all.

I do not take enough DMT to be transported into another realm, I am usually confronted in this reality, however, the DMT reality is able to overlap all my perceptions on life... making it a very odd space indeed.

I take DMT enough where I can no longer stand or possibly imagine walking, but that I can still see my surroundings when my eyes are opened. That is where the relevance get tied to emotion and revelation.

 

[MindAsh]

i've actually participated in the Ayahuasca ritual but i've yet to acquire DMT in my travels. i've seen many a sites giving instructions on how to extract it but i don't know that i trust it. wrong instructions could be deadly. so, i figured i'd post on here, ask advice from people who've successfully extracted it and wait and see who responds with what. i figure that if i get bad instructions from a person/persons, other will post right behind them that it is wrong. so, kinda bring it up before the "committee" and see what the general response is. i know that the average hallucinogen user won't lead another astray so i assumed that this would be the safest and most accurate way to get instructions. i know that it probably won't compare to Ayahuasca but you know us nauts...always looking for the next question...

goto www.dmt-nexus.com and register for the forum then at the top of the forum page there will be a link to the chat room and it is by far the best and most trustworthy group of people ive yet met specializing in the extraction of spice, since i started going there in december of 09 it has become a second family to me and they are an extremely loving and very very knowledgeable bunch. just tell them i sent you