Beware of Salviaeffects.com!

[drillerboy]

Salviaeffects.com sent me 100X Salvia that was the poorest quality Salvia I have encountered. "It wouldn't even get a fly high" First off, I doubt they even have it because I have never seen anything over 60X on the internet. When I try to get them to take it back or do anything to correct the mistake, they stop responding. These guys are scammers! Just thought I would let you guys know so they don't rip you off too!

 

[Guest]

100x salvia ? everything above 20x is complete BS. even if it was real, 100x, what was the point of smoking something that strong ? when one understands SD, he can trip from two or three leaves, meaning 1x. i used to have great trips (not full blown, but crazy CEV's and thoughts) on just three leaves. i wonder if i can still do it. long time no salvia...

 

[HappyMind]

Thanks for the report drillerboy!

when one understands SD, he can trip from two or three leaves, meaning 1x. i used to have great trips (not full blown, but crazy CEV's and thoughts) on just three leaves. i wonder if i can still do it. long time no salvia...

It don't works for me. Maybe i'll have to try 5x / 10x extract first?

But why is Salvia +20x complete bullshit?
Is it impossible to make?

 

[Guest]

from "Salvia divinorum extraction FAQ", by Sphere:

When using the sample method of making enhanced leaf I like to use an extra amount of Salvia leaf to make up for
possible extraction inefficiencies. In this simple method six grams of leaf are being extracted and placed back on one gram to
make 5X leaf. Since a total of six grams is being extracted to place back onto one gram of leaf the total amount of leaf used is
7 grams to make one gram of 5x which should be every bit as potent as standardized 5x leaf, more than likely closer to 6x.
Want to make something stronger using this method? Not recommended because of the increased amount of waxy lipid
compounds placed back onto leaf in higher concentrations any more than a ratio of 6 to 1 is about as high as you can go
without ending up with a very gummy and harsh burning leaf which produces too much smoke for most people to hack.

i have read this from a completely secure source, but i cannot remind where it was from anymore, i'm sorry. i just found the above text. but i'm not 100% certain of it.

 

[zane]

from "Salvia divinorum extraction FAQ", by Sphere:

When using the sample method of making enhanced leaf I like to use an extra amount of Salvia leaf to make up for
possible extraction inefficiencies. In this simple method six grams of leaf are being extracted and placed back on one gram to
make 5X leaf. Since a total of six grams is being extracted to place back onto one gram of leaf the total amount of leaf used is
7 grams to make one gram of 5x which should be every bit as potent as standardized 5x leaf, more than likely closer to 6x.
Want to make something stronger using this method? Not recommended because of the increased amount of waxy lipid
compounds placed back onto leaf in higher concentrations any more than a ratio of 6 to 1 is about as high as you can go
without ending up with a very gummy and harsh burning leaf which produces too much smoke for most people to hack.

i have read this from a completely secure source, but i cannot remind where it was from anymore, i'm sorry. i just found the above text. but i'm not 100% certain of it.

I think that applies to home extraction methods. If done commercially, with proper equipment, it is possible to get pure (or close to pure) salvinorin crystals. If you have pure crystals you should be able to make any strength extract you want... although Im not sure how cost effective it would be for any company to make true 100x.... not to mention how irresponsible that would be to make public.

 

[Guest]

zane, perhaps if you had the pure crystals, you would smoke those and acurately know the amount you were taking.
but perhaps it is possible, i am not sure, but i don't think so (i might be wrong, and probably am), but i would NEVER advise anyone to take a true 100x, and certainly would never take it myself. does anyone have any experience with 40+ extracts that really worked like it was meant to be ? inhalation, laughing and nothingness ?

 

[zane]

Yeah, i never said it was a good idea, just that is it possible. About 2.5mg of salvinorin in plain leaf, dissolve 250mg of crystals into a solvent and slowly drip onto a leaf and let dry. You would have a 100x leaf....
Personally I have no need for anything over 10x, but I could see some wanting to try 20x... 100x is just stupid

 

[JosVU]

If 10x is perfect for you then 100x requires 10times less extract. Less herb= less smoke, same dose. Doesnt seem stupid to me.

 

[Psychoid]

Yeah but try to dose accurately a 100x extract, just for fun

Everything above 20x is USELESS!!!! I trip HARDCORE with one small inhalation of 5x. Anything above 5x is for people that aren't so used to smoking and therefore can't take big enough inhalations or keep them in for long enough.

 

[BrainEater]

hehe i guess it would let your brain become a fried brain. and i suppose you know how people with fried brains are generally. lol

 

[JustinNed]

I wish I would of tried a true 100x Salvia first time I smoked.

 

[zane]

I wish I would of tried a true 100x Salvia first time I smoked.

Why is that?

 

[Forkbender]

I wish I would of tried a true 100x Salvia first time I smoked.

Better start with 5x. It's enough to get you there.

 

[JustinNed]

Well now that I know how strong it is I would never do something like smoke 100x, but if it was my first time smoking it would be one hell of a trip, I can only imagine how that would feel.

 

[st.bot.32]

I can think of a good use for a 100x coated leaf.

It would be perfect for a much more pleasant quid ingestion, instead of having a mouthful of leaves while tripping..

 

[Guest]

i can only dream what would 100x extract taste like

 

[BuySalviaOnline]

there is a similiar complaint about salviaeffects at the entheogen.com forum, caveat emptor!

Regarding extracts - the more something is concentrated, the more potential for dangerous abuse, e.g. coca leaf vs. crack, beer vs. whiskey