Before its to late :(

[phalaris]

The mycelium is really close to the roots of most plant, even providing the plant with nutrients that were broken down by the mycelium. If that is taking place, diffusion of hormones through the mycelium should also be possible. Once a molecule has enterered the mycelium (or another root) it is actively transported along the cell membranes. there is a flow inside most cells, there are even movies of this process.(sorry no link,maybe later) the molecules that cause this are actines/myosines. yes, the same stuff used in muscles.

That this inter-plant chemical exchange is not known does not mean it does not exist, it only means that nobody has properly looked for it yet. The effect are most probably subtle, to sensitive measurements should be taken.

Say, for fun, reaction A->B begins suddenly after a threashold of A and trigger T, rapidly depleating A.
B is partly converted into T by a mycelium. Then connected neigbours can be triggered into releasing B themselves provided they were inactive long enough. This is just an example of oscilating reactions localized to groups of plants.

To test this, a whole battery of mass spectrometers could monitor the chemical composition of the plants in response to, for example, shading patterns.

There is no communication here between the plants.

communication is interaction with something or someone to interpret the information. so in that sense, probably no communication is taking place between plants nodes. BUT I am convinced that plants are reacting to each others chemistry, because they are not chemically isolated from each other. In an organism (plant or animal) there are dozens of complex interacting chemical feedback loops, and some have threasholds. So I don't think it is farfetched that plants influence each others' plant chemistry.

as for a field of grass having consiousness; that ofcource is wild speculation, but the underlying network supports it in principle.

 

[Dantediv86]

Too bad we probably are the only humans interested in this
however i believe in a more spiritual concept of plant consciousnes...not the typical human, "scientifically" and chemically, fast paced, egocentric, consciousnes concept
Though your ideas are interesting and scientifically they could hold truth, i think it is a biased view to compare a plant to a single neuron, since a neuron is just a cell, while the plant is an organism who reacts to stimuli both from the environment and therefore other organisms and not, and also from reactions within itself.

i rest my case

 

[JosVU]

Too bad we probably are the only humans interested in this
however i believe in a more spiritual concept of plant consciousnes...not the typical human, "scientifically" and chemically, fast paced, egocentric, consciousnes concept
Though your ideas are interesting and scientifically they could hold truth, i think it is a biased view to compare a plant to a single neuron, since a neuron is just a cell, while the plant is an organism who reacts to stimuli both from the environment and therefore other organisms and not, and also from reactions within itself.

i rest my case

there are books writen about these subjects

plants are consious..
only not like us, difrent sences
when some plants are attacked by insects they release a feromoon/drug that makes ants allert and happy and the ants eat the insects.
So that means a few things.
1 plants and animals can communicate with each other
2 plant is aware of itself. it noticed it was being attacked.



when i bought the book(i now have no idea what the title was) I can tell you much more about this subject

 

[buffachino]

Perhaps this concept of plant consciousness is not so far removed from the very concept of the logos, or a universal consciousness which spans infinitely beyond the realm of the physical.

Maybe the explanation is that the primordial makeup of plants, being the first forms of life to erupt from the black abyss that was infantile earth, are remnants or manifestations of an infinitely expanding pool of cosmic knowledge that drives the very existence of the self. This would explain why the psychoactive substances and entheogens granted to cognisant beings such as ourselves all spawn from this same kingdom of the ethereal and cosmic; the silent guardians of time and space.
Perhaps we are transcending the cosmic fabric when we converse with our plant teachers, returning to the origin of existence, as McKenna explains in alien dreamtime. Reuniting with the singular mass of being that IS everything: man and beast, inanimate and animate, real and surreal.

Plants do not merely exist within our physical parameters on earth but also on an entirely unimaginable scale and depth within the whirlpool that is felt experience. They are not individuals as we would like to think but an ever oscillating, reproducing structure of the universal mind much like a mass of microscopic life is not viewed by the individual; nor are neurons viewed within a mammalian brain this way. This is the same for humans, yet millennia of subjective cultural evolution have sadly blinded us from this truth. It is this essence you feel when deep within the inner realms of a psychedelic trip. It is an infinitely varied yet elegantly uniform mind of everything that all being and matter is a part of. You are born from this and you will return when you die. Death is just a return of the felt experiences of the unique lifetime spent within the physical by that individual, and upon returning, enriches the interstellar soup of being; much like the result of a nova when a star dies, returning the complexity of matter to the interstellar medium to begin anew.

This would explain the inherent barriers between the animal and the plants experience of life itself, yet although it may seem vastly alien, it is precisely the same.

Humans seem to have built metaphysical walls between us and the felt universe; it is these walls which psychedelics SMASH when you trip.
Turn yours to rubble

 

[Dantediv86]

all that you said is understood, what really turns you to rubble is the thought that all living and nonliving shares an end, that is why the methaphysical barrier was built by humans, because we can't face the truth (i.e. what you just said)
amd with this i just said what you said.....
ok
nevermind it means that we agree to a certain extent...