Baby Woodrose Seeds?
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just eat the f***ing things and after you get sick you will trip. look at this as a reward for the nausia and enjoy the trip even more. /forum/images/graemlins/ooo.gif when you had once ayahuasca you wil not complain about a little sickness after eaten the hbwr.
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well, do sjamans use hbwr at all? /forum/images/graemlins/think.gif
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my extraction technik is to trip with HBW seeds, as if it was LSD! (and it is possible, i know it)
it u eat them like that, u'll get a sick-hallucinogenated state, that is no way comparable to lsd.
lsd is a pure high feeling,
then, shamans ate the seeds like that ? yeah if u like mother nature, or if u dont have the time to prepare it, u can try,
BUT
datura is not so hard trip compared to "like that" hbw seeds.
only thing i can say: with 5 seeds u will be a little sick, and u wont feel the nice high feelings of lsd,
with 10 seeds: u will feel the lsd, BUT u will be very very very sick, and u wont like it, IT WIL BE A DATURA-LIKE TRIP.
cya
it u eat them like that, u'll get a sick-hallucinogenated state, that is no way comparable to lsd.
lsd is a pure high feeling,
then, shamans ate the seeds like that ? yeah if u like mother nature, or if u dont have the time to prepare it, u can try,
BUT
datura is not so hard trip compared to "like that" hbw seeds.
only thing i can say: with 5 seeds u will be a little sick, and u wont feel the nice high feelings of lsd,
with 10 seeds: u will feel the lsd, BUT u will be very very very sick, and u wont like it, IT WIL BE A DATURA-LIKE TRIP.
cya
Guess what?!?!
I went to my aunt's house today and she was showing me her green house and guess what she has?? Hawian Baby woodrose! They are all over. I asked my aunt if I could collect the seeds so I can grow my own (yeah right)..
Right now I have a coffee can about 1/2 full of seeds...
I could open my own HBR seed shop! hahaha Guess she had no clue how valuable they were.
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I went to my aunt's house today and she was showing me her green house and guess what she has?? Hawian Baby woodrose! They are all over. I asked my aunt if I could collect the seeds so I can grow my own (yeah right)..
Right now I have a coffee can about 1/2 full of seeds...
I could open my own HBR seed shop! hahaha Guess she had no clue how valuable they were.
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bonzo
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just for the record:
it's not lsa that causes poisoning, it's the soap-like glycosides found especially in HBWR and in lesser extant in MG-varieties.
glycosides are combinations of one or more sugars with another element (aglucon). the combination with the sugars makes the aglucon soluble in water.
saponins are glycosides with high molecular wheight and are of a terpenoid composition and poisonousness. they all taste bitter and are strong producers of lather (sapo is lating for soap) and can break down red globules (hemolyse).
the poisoning is similar to strychnine poisoning (strychnine is found in nicotiana glauca (wild tobacco) and is the head alkaloid in the seeds of strychnos nux-vomica (vomitnut). doses of 60-90mg cause death by paralysis of respiration)
some common poisoning effects of the saponines in HBWR are:
convulsions, tinnitus, uncontrollable comitting and diarhea, heartrate elevation to the point of minor heart attack,blue tinged limbs (feet, knees, elbows),irreversible toxification of liver, heavily raised blood pressure, long term hardening of the arteries
so, if you don't want to find out why some people (among them a lot of old american hippies) need thorazine and medicines alike, don't eat the seeds!
and indeed, the sjamans make a brew out of it, they don't eat them
also is ayahuasca often seen and used as a body/mind cleansing. there are a lot of yahé-drinkers who never feel any sickness, and they believe this is because they don't have (m)any poisons left in their system like alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, marijuana, and other drugs, medicines, animal food, bad thoughts, etc.
anyone interested/infatuated with the poison path should do research, research, research...
it's not lsa that causes poisoning, it's the soap-like glycosides found especially in HBWR and in lesser extant in MG-varieties.
glycosides are combinations of one or more sugars with another element (aglucon). the combination with the sugars makes the aglucon soluble in water.
saponins are glycosides with high molecular wheight and are of a terpenoid composition and poisonousness. they all taste bitter and are strong producers of lather (sapo is lating for soap) and can break down red globules (hemolyse).
the poisoning is similar to strychnine poisoning (strychnine is found in nicotiana glauca (wild tobacco) and is the head alkaloid in the seeds of strychnos nux-vomica (vomitnut). doses of 60-90mg cause death by paralysis of respiration)
some common poisoning effects of the saponines in HBWR are:
convulsions, tinnitus, uncontrollable comitting and diarhea, heartrate elevation to the point of minor heart attack,blue tinged limbs (feet, knees, elbows),irreversible toxification of liver, heavily raised blood pressure, long term hardening of the arteries
so, if you don't want to find out why some people (among them a lot of old american hippies) need thorazine and medicines alike, don't eat the seeds!
and indeed, the sjamans make a brew out of it, they don't eat them
also is ayahuasca often seen and used as a body/mind cleansing. there are a lot of yahé-drinkers who never feel any sickness, and they believe this is because they don't have (m)any poisons left in their system like alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, marijuana, and other drugs, medicines, animal food, bad thoughts, etc.
anyone interested/infatuated with the poison path should do research, research, research...
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tnx bonzo you confinsed me i dit not know of the dangerous site-effects, could you send me an easy recept in dutch?
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here is a link:
A Method for the Extraction and Usage of LSA from Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds or Morning Glory Seeds
http://www.clearwhitelight.org/hatter/LSAextraction.htm
and here the same for our german speaking friends
http://www.personal.uni-jena.de/~s8kuma/lsaextraction.html
A Method for the Extraction and Usage of LSA from Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds or Morning Glory Seeds
http://www.clearwhitelight.org/hatter/LSAextraction.htm
and here the same for our german speaking friends
http://www.personal.uni-jena.de/~s8kuma/lsaextraction.html
