Baby Woodrose Seeds?

[Aerogel]

Well, I have bought Azarius some seeds, and now I want some advices, if anyone can give them tome /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
What is the best way to take them, to get the maximum effect? Should I simply eat them, or should I try to exctract it? LorpasPT said that it is quite easy to do the extraction, and other user also said to me that I could do it just by putting them in alcohol and them, after one week, drink it... is there any better way? Can someone explain the procedure in detail?

One other question, can I plant the seeds? Will they grow? What are the conditions for their growth?

Thanks!

 

[bonzo]

well, first grind them to fine powder. let the powder soak in water for one hour, this is to get rid of the saponins that make one sick. next filter it and throw away the water. let the seedmush soak in alcohol for one week (or more). filter again, get rid of the slurry. drink the alcohol. or let it vaporize and put the residue in gelcaps.
extraction makes the effects come on almost imediately (like weed, or salvia)

there's a even better way for extraction, but you need petroleum aether for it.

you can also just eat them, chewing very well, but then you will get a little sick, and there's also a little negative effect called the 'fish-eye' effect, if you consume them like this.

 

[Aerogel]

Can you describe the petroleum aether method? Maybe I can do it...
What does it mean "slurry"?

 

[acx01b]

the pretroleum teknik:

i found on rhodium

1st u obtain HWB extract
(like bonzo said)
and then u do the same operation with ETHER
then: filtering: u keep the powder, throwing away ether+extract
the powder in the filter is taken back with alcool

I never tried it,
maybe u can have some pure (nearly pure) lsa

ether: there are many solvents working here
(white spirit??)

 

[Aerogel]

Hum... I still dont understand well the procedure... maybe because of my lack of english understanding... Meanwhile I will try to read about the extraction methods, so that I can do it when the seeds get here!

Thanks, and keep explaining this procedures!

 

[acx01b]

man ur english seems to be good!
search the words u dont understand IN A DICTIONNARY!!!!

 

[Aerogel]

LOL, for sure, I quite understand the words... is the concept that I can't understand. I'm not sure if I should use regular alcohol, and then drink it.. because it tastes really strong and bad...
And I dont know if I have to eat the seeds remains, after the extraction...

Let me see if I got it...

1- I must grind the seeds to fine powder,
2- soak the seeds with water, for at least an hour,
3- filter and get rid of all the water from the powdered seeds,
4- mix alcohol, and let it for a week or more...
5- filter again,
6- get rid of the powdered seeds (slurry?)
7- drink the alcohol,
or
I can let the alcohol evaporate,
8- Put the residue in gelcaps

Is this process correct?

 

[Guest]

smoke some weed with it! weed goes really goed together with hbwr

 

[Aerogel]

I will try to do so, but it is very difficult to get real good weed around here. Can I use hax instead?

 

[acx01b]

rectificating the HBW technik:

4) mix with alcohol and let it one week OR LESS
(i used to do 3 days)


(in my opinion) its quite hard to grow hbw


LAST THING: use some whisky, or vodka, if u r gonna drink it,
or if u want to eat only the residue, use some ALCOOl90% (10% methanol) and after the alcool is gone away from the residue, put 1ml water and let it evaporate)

cya

 

[bonzo]

wow wow, totally wrong, sorry, my fault. i mixed it up with another extraction...

1. let soak in water
2. filter, throw away filter and solid stuff, keep the water
3. evaporate, brown stuff will remain. (don't use heat, use a fan)
4. redissolve brown stuff in alcohol (+80% are best)
5. filter again and drink it (you don't need much alcohol)
6. instant highness /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[acx01b]

can i just ask:
why do u 1st do with water then with alcool?



plz go see my post:
THE FINAL ONE - LSA HAWAIIAN BABY WOODROSE SEEDS
in the Product & Order Questions forum

 

[bonzo]

to remove the 'strychnine effect' that really fucks up the experience when you eat grounded seeds just like that. (indigenous people knew what they were doing duh)
the alcohol afterwards is to get rid of the soaps. saponins
are not soluble in alcohol or petrol aether.
(if you have petrolether you can work in reversal way)

 

[bonzo]

btw don't use normal ether (diethyl ehter) it will not work and this is extremely dangerous (explosions when exposed to air).
also don't use things like acetone, white spirit, or whatever solvents u can buy at the DIY-store, you never know what dangerous poison substances are mixed in it.
the method descibed above is safe in all ways

 

[acx01b]

look at my post:
THE FINAL ONE - LSA HAWAIIAN BABY WOODROSE SEEDS
in the Product & Order Questions forum


i use alcool too.
i ask for the water :
cause lsa is soluble in water, but not as much as in alcool.

dont u think u can loose some lsa (in the solid stuff) when u filter the water + seeds ?

 

[bonzo]

yep, that's possible.
it's seems that you have found the ultimate lsa extraction method, i will surely give your cooking art a go /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
why freezing? and 77 times filtering?

 

[richie]

does this extraction method also work with morning glory???

 

[Jinoku_Takai]

Thanks Rick.....I was just about to ask that same question ^_^....I know one night, after a pretty hard DXM Trip, Me and a friend of mine ate 100 Morning Glory seeds. Didn't really feel a thing =/.

 

[acx01b]

my "ultimate extraction"
is a mix between 2 things in the hbw extraction:

dissolving lsa in ethanol
WITHOUT
any cn- (cyanide) traces

how?

when u mix the seeds with the water, the cn- is liberated, and while the water is evaporating, IT cristallizes.
then, cyanide's solubility in alcool is not 0g/l, but it is really low.
in 25°C alcoool it is already really low,
so in 3°C alcool it is nearly 0g/L
then, i am quite sure that lsa solubility in alcool is high, even at 3°C.
so in the final product with my extraction, there is NOT cn-.
I am gonna test it in a few days with 15seeds, and i'll tell u.
--------------------------------------------
§§§morning glory§§§§

1gr of hbw seeds = 2-3 seeds?

1gr of morning glory = 6-7 ()
so if u wanna extract 100seeds, keep the same dosages (water and alcool) as i told in my "ultimate" hbw extraction.

note: my extraction hasnt been already tried.
the only thing where maybe i'm wrong is with the 3°C -->maybe 10°C is better, maybe less, maybe more.


last thing:
the 77 filtering is very important:
when it is bad filtered, some things (like cn- and nauseous things of the seeds) are in the solution, and then u eat it.
so it is important to filter seriously (like 3times)
1st: do with a pierced filter, then with a filter not pierced.
--> u loose some lsa, so after filtering, wash with cold alcool before throwing away filter+solid stuffs.

lastlast thing: eating morning glory (and hbw seeds) without extraction, means that u eat some howfull stuffs (nauseous and cyanides) and also seeds like that are hard to dissolve in your stomac, so the effect is longer and less intense.

cya

 

[Aerogel]

This is so confusing...

I think I've lost myself in all of this information. My seeds just arrived, and I'm afraid to do something wrong...

I will read all the treads and then will try the hbw.