Ayhuasca brew... SSNRI and Syrian Rue

[Fascination88]

Hello psychonaut community! I was wondering If anyone could help me out with a question I got. You see my friend just started this SSNRI Effexor (i think it's Effexor, i know it's an SSNRI though). He started it about a month ago I think, and we had planned on making some ayhuasca. Our good friend is leaving town for a good while, and we all wanted to try such a beautiful substance before he left. We were thinking of taking it in a little over a week. The combination we were gonna make was about 15g of Mimosa and 4-5g of Syrian Rue per person. If you could please help me out, my friend doesn't want to die, or have (more than us) uncomfortable effects from the Syrian rue + SSNRI combination. I realize SSRI's and MAOI's such as Syrian rue can be dangerous, but I also knwo alot of people who have done the ayhuasca brew with Syrian rue and SSRI's and been ok. I also realize that Syrian rue, is nowhere near as potent of an MAOI as the pharmaceutical MAOI's, but I still want to be cautions. Plus, I don't know what difference an SSNRI would do. Well ya, if anyone could offer some help, i'd greatly appreciate it, and I know my buddy will too! Peace out! and thanks in advance for the help!

 

[GOD]

You should have posted your questions in the "Ayahuasca, DMT" section .

"I realize SSRI's and MAOI's such as Syrian rue can be dangerous"

YES .

You could take a look here :- http://www.psychonaut.com/index.php?opt ... d=&id=maoi

and here :- http://www.azarius.net/pages/maoi_page/

 

[VidnaObmana]

Don't do it.
Please.

 

[afer]

4-5 grams of rue is way too much anyways. Consider using 2-3 grams.
One must consult his/her doctor before combining these two.

 

[Fascination88]

ya, we decided he's gonna have to sit this one out sadly. Gotta believe in the promise of time, perhaps one day he'll be off his SSNRI and then those times can be shared, but thank you all for your heads up. It's very appreciated

 

[tryptonaut]

maoi adverse effects should not be underestimated. I once tried a little (really little!) amount of Yohimbe (which is a weaker MAOI than Syrian Rue) on a day where I had had some ephedra extract a few hours before (like 30mg of ephedrine). I didn't feel too well after a while (shaky and uncomfortable) and I thought a beer might bring me down. After a big glass of beer I started trembling like a fucking crack addict and I felt like shit. I should have known that beer wouldn't make it any better, but I just couldn't believe a 1/3 teaspoon of yohimbe could be that bad. It was, and I learned the hard way while sitting in a bar with unsuspecting "normal" people... I think I told them something about "that fish must have been bad" or something...

The trembling and bad feeling went away after a while, but this had only been a really small amount of a pretty weak maoi - but now I know that a real serotonine shock (and this is what you will get with ssri's plus maoi) must be a very very unpleasant way to die!