Ayahuasca first time, tips?

[JustinNed]

Hey guys, I just placed an order for 56g Jurema (mimosa hostilis) and 28g Syrian Rue seeds, I'm gonna go 25g Hostilis with 3 Syrian Rue Seeds. Anyone got any tips for/on the trip to another world?

 

[JustinNed]

I edited the top post, so I need to add another post to bump it.

 

[Bastiaan]

Do it in the evening, alone or with a very good friend.
Stick to your MAOI diet.
If you puke, puke in a bucket, pour the puke in a glass, drink the puke 8)

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Ew!! Gross!

 

[JustinNed]

Hrm, I dunno CM, sounds tasty to me. I have a feeling though that any vomitting would take place outside to be hosed off several hours later.

I was going to prepare/drink at a very good friends house, that was the first thing I thought of.
Puke in cup for re administration, anything else guys?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Puking and drinking or even eating puke? Uf! I have done it sometimes. And do U know what happen after eating/drinking vomit? So hard and high pressure vomit bursts out of my feet that whole bedroom white wall has been sprayed! But this happen on only one occasion of vomit drinking. :wink: :?

Years ago when I was death game addict, I have puked my therapy after some 70 seconds after I drink them(opiate pills). They were all over the parquet. Maybe one liter of vomit with 1/3 dissolved pills. And one by one I have picked up them from floor with almost every vomit drop. GODS; GODS; THIS IS SOOOO DISGUSTING!

WATCH YOUR TEETH. SHIT FROM STOMACH WILL FRY THEM BEFORE U SAY COOKIE!!

Also one other thing, Mimosa DMT source is also one of the most disgusting brew in entheogen specter! U will see and taste of course!
Like green cover from nuts in tea mixed with Artemesia Absinthium. Tongue anesthesia!!!

GODS HELP U. Maybe U are resistant to bitter taste.

Peace
Light
Love
Bless

 

[JustinNed]

Hey Goran, thanks for input! I myself have reswallowed vomit only after vommiting up in my mouth (didn't collect any).
I actually am not good at all with horrible tasting brews, but as long as it's not thick and chunky I hope to just chug. Anymore input guys?

 

[mysticwarrior]

Do it in the evening, alone or with a very good friend.
Stick to your MAOI diet.
If you puke, puke in a bucket, pour the puke in a glass, drink the puke 8)

Have you done that?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Hey Goran, thanks for input! I myself have reswallowed vomit only after vommiting up in my mouth (didn't collect any).
I actually am not good at all with horrible tasting brews, but as long as it's not thick and chunky I hope to just chug. Anymore input guys?

THEN U CAN'T DRINK MIMOSA TEA! :wink:
BELIEVE ME, OR U WILL SEE AND FEEL!
MIMOSA TEA HAVE ONE OF THE MOST DISGUSTING BREW TASTE.
LIQUID IS LIKE WATER BUT THERE IS SO MUCH TANNINS! X20 FROM COFFEE OR BLACK-RUSSIAN TEA!
TRY TO VAPORISE-CONCENTRATE LIQUID INTO 20-30cc SYRINGE AND THEN USE IT ANALLY. THIS WAY U DOESN'T NEED TO TAKE MAOi. MAYBE ONLY FOR PROLOGUED DURATION.

 

[Forkbender]

Yeah, boil it down as much as possible, you don't want to chug this but slam it down. It is the worst taste I have ever tasted more than once. Have a bit of water or some lemon and honey at hand to get rid of the taste.


I wonder if it is possible to boil along some ginger to make it easier on the stomach???

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

25 grams of hostilis is quite a lot. Perhaps start with 15 to 20 grams.

 

[JustinNed]

Maybe I will get a couple of shot glasses and just shoot it down.
I thought 25g of Hostilis was an average dose, until I realized I mixed it up with Psychotria viridis. I'm looking for a breakthrough experience, so 20g Hostilis? I have confidence in myself that I will be able to take down the brew, but as I have yet to taste it who knows.
Keep your fingers crossed for me Goran, I just had a bad enima experience not too long ago, so I think I'm gonna attempt the brew (but that will be a last call).
So, MAO-I diet, fast for at least 4 hours, boil down in to as little liquid as possible, and have chaser ready. Possibly brew with some ginger? I was reading something (I think on Erowid) about drinking without throwing up, but I'm gonna expect too. Maybe drink 1/2 of brew see how it sits than take other 1/2 or just knock it all back at once?

I'm excited and unbelievably nervous/scared, and can only hope that I am ready for this experience mentally. So, let me just say, thanks to all who posted.
Has anyone here tried to brew it with something like Ginger to help nausea? I can imagine though that, that would add quite the flavor to it as well.

 

[Forkbender]

Just get as much in at the same time. Drinking more is harder. Both times I tried it I managed to keep it in for quite a while (first until the end of the session, about 4/5 hours after the beginning and the other time until 2 hours after intake). Lying down might help. Making yourself comfortable. If you have to puke you have to puke and it can be very wonderful on ayahuasca.

 

[JustinNed]

Awesome, thanks guys. I think I'm prepared!

 

[Bastiaan]

Have you done that?

I have only sticked with my MOAI diet actually
But I think this is the most important.
If you do this, the puke will be almost exactly the stuff you took in (perhaps a little warmer hmmm XD), it won't be all that gross.
I didnt do it in the evening but I felt that was a mistake, that's why I'm recommending this.
I first drank half the glass I prepared.
When I tried drinking the second I puked it out immediately.
I threw this away, later wishing I hadnt done that.
I had an amazing experience nevertheless.
I found it all pretty gross btw, I didn't like the taste of the PH extract at all and found the aya taste inpleasant as well to say the least.
Next time I'll just take a cap with some DMT, see how that works for me
Have it lying there for quite some time now, 4 grams of PH and 60mgs of DMT in a cap.
Waiting for the right time.
Hope that will be soon
Have a good one Justin!
If your experience is only half as beautiful as my first aya experience was you will be thrilled

 

[IJesusChrist]

How was it?!
My trip was much to intense (or was going to be) I could feel complete disconnect coming on, and wasn't ready. I puked it up. I didn't have a problem keeping it down though, I would have been able for another hour or so to keep it down. I drank alot too!! I made it really really weak haha bad!
It's like drinking dirty bitterness, and the maoi drink if you dont boil it down is just as bad, maybe worse HACK
hack oh god.
it was good though I like ayahuasca out of all the drugs
have fun, and be limp

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

DOES ANYONE KNOWS ANY INFO BOUT PHALARIS OR LINKS TO PHALARIS AND DMT EXTRACTION?

 

[IJesusChrist]

DOES ANYONE KNOWS ANY INFO BOUT PHALARIS OR LINKS TO PHALARIS AND DMT EXTRACTION?

I did ALOT of phalaris extractiion over the summer - the wild grass is very hard to get precise. Without a wheat grass extractor it is not worth it. It's too hardy to use a blender, and you need a very large amount of the stuff.

However I was dealing with wild grass - apparently the kind you buy has higher alkaloid content. Give it a try, and use weak acids, I used HCl which could have been my problem... (I diluted it of course, but still it is very strong)

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

OK, OK.
I appreciate your help really much! 8)
Tell so then, links with everything bout Phalaris araundinacea grass,
-links bout NN,DMT extraction from Phalarisa
-what U sad bout grinder? What I need to do? Do U have some kind of web link?
Also could I use old grass? Meaning that here is winter really near and all Phalarisa turned to "dry leaf color"! Could I use that? DMT is stable chem?! I think so. :?: So why should it not prevail in the Phalarisa plant which has lost it's green tissue part but still retained-have original shape-size. In one month that for will die and crumble from morning deadly frosts. I HATE MYSELF! CAUSE I DO NOT HAVE BLITZ! WOULD LIKE TO SHOW U PICTURES OF THEM.

CAN U HELP ME?
REALLY NEED THIS NOOOOOW! CAUSE I DO NOT KNOW WHEN WILL AGAIN BE ROUND THAT HUGE PHALARISA FIELD! SO I HAVE INTENTIONS TO COLLECT BIGGER AMOUNTS TOMORROW. BUT NEED ADVICES IS THAT WORTH ANYTHING.
HELP ME MY MEMBER BUDDY.
Peace

 

[JustinNed]

Here's a few links Goran....

http://www.psychonaut.com/index.php?opt ... 92&lang=nl

http://dmt.tribe.net/thread/8fe8ee1b-c3 ... 5431259308

Hope that helps.