atropa belladonna a.k.a deadly night sage

[GOD]

The net link was very good . Where did you get the self confirming , false , definitions of what entheogen means please . I`d like to take a look .

 

[GOD]

Entheogens = Drugs that bring one in touch with the Divine within. This term was coined by Ruck et al. (1979) and further discussed by Ott (1996) and by Jesse (2001).

 

[Dantediv86]

seen that too

EDIT

just look up wikipedia

 

[GOD]

And you still havent got the courage to admit that you were talking shit ???? Even though you new it you just carryed on . Did you get pleasure from being disruptive ??? Talk for talks sake ego wanking ??? Personaly i think that thats very weak .

 

[Dantediv86]

no man
nothing like that
i don't feel i was disruptive at all
i feel really fine
i might have wanked my ego, but i dunno
do you?

it's just we see the thing in two different views

 

[Dantediv86]

besides this is probably the only thread where i'm NOT (and i'm trying hard not to) be disruptive in any way
and i really am trying hard to keep cool about my arguments
Do you feel frustrated by that? are you projecting your frustration on my by saying i wanked my ego and was disruptive?

 

[GOD]

Your doing it again . You new what the definition is and you kept on talking shit . Dont you understand that thats one of the big problems we have . Because we cant sit down and agree on a strategy , because everytime someone says something sensible and constructive people come and provoke , they are snotty and destroy any chance that we might have had . People who have nothing to say and keep saying it . Draging us all down to their level . Swim in your sea of shit if you want but please give others the chance to do something positive .

I have no more time for you untill you start being constructive and not disruptive .

 

[tryptonaut]

I'm a bit late on this thread, but I just wanted to say again (like on any other thread on nightshades) that I think they are very very dangerous and not to be taken by "normal" psychonauts.
I mean, if you are a full time shaman and you live in the jungle and you talk with spirits all day long, and your whole purpose of life is to communicate with the other worlds, then probably nightshades are another possibility for you to go further into the unknown realms. In that case it doesn't matter if you fully come back because you make a living from communicating with spirits and such.
BUT, if you intend to live the rest of your life in the "real" world, and have normal conversation with normal people, and earn your living with normal jobs, then taking nightshades can be very very damaging to your life...

I like to compare it with something like: you can go sky-diving if you like. It's a little risky, but everyone can do it. BUT, you don't want to base-jump into a narrow canyon rift. Some people do that, but they are few, and they are totally crazy. Don't do that, stay with the normal sky-diving (that is entheogens like lsd, psilocybin, mescaline...)

 

[pooz321]

thank all of you but the agruing is a bit damaging to the purpose of the thread...i wanted to hear about your experiences..thanx

 

[GOD]

Yes , the arguing was a drag . But if you read around it you will see that most people advise against abusing yourself with Datura . Its to dangerous , and there are more enjoyable freely available alternatives .

 

[druglessdouglas]

if you are going to try atropa belladona then dry some and smoke it in very small doses through a pipe. a small pinch at a time. give it 5 mins between pipes that way you can dose it and stop if it starts to become unpleasant. its not as strong as datura, but eating it could kill you so best not to. be carefull picking it as the juice on your skin counts towards your dose. in fact if you get enough on your skin you wont have to smoke it. wash your hands

 

[Bighead]

thank all of you but the agruing is a bit damaging to the purpose of the thread...i wanted to hear about your experiences..thanx

The bottom line with any of the nightshades is, you will not now or ever have a positive experience, if you meet someone who said they had one please slap them right through the face for me.

Imagine a woman saying she would like to be fed an obscene amount of roofies for the experience of being raped whilst unconscious. Datura is the roofies and raped is your mind. If you truly enjoy it, you are truly fucked in all sense of the word.

I strongly urge you to stop thinking about this group of plants as entheogens, they are not, they are a loaded gun.

 

[Bighead]

thank all of you but the agruing is a bit damaging to the purpose of the thread...i wanted to hear about your experiences..thanx

Sorry got a little carried away with the previous post. Here is my experience.

Boil 10 Brugmansia flowers, the nice orange ones, in a pot for an hour with cinnamon, lemon, tea bags, anything to basically make it not taste like bile.

Drink a coffee cup of this putrid shit. Start feeling drunk then wake up the next morning covered in blood. Next 2 days I have blurred vision, extreme visuals, schizophrenic tenancies and thoughts, and I cannot control my bladder, and regularly piss my pants.

You have obviously read previous "trip" reports so I won't bore you with the same old running through glass doors, and walls, seeing people who aren't there shit that is told to you the next day by your sitters.

I thought the plant would teach... it does nothing of the sort.