Advice on my first trip...

[Sativa]

Ive been planning to go for my first trip like a month or something, and from the information i gathered i personally think salvia would be my best start. Since i got the problem that im a diabetic for over 7 years by now. Ive been thinking alot about it, and found some topics about people with diabetics who have token lsd, and yet managed to survive it. But still im thinking that taking lsd would be way out of control for me at the moment. Im a regular pot smoker , and i can handle it fine combined with my diabetics, but personal friends have told me that tripping is way different then smoking, wich is pretty normal i guess. Now why salvia would u think? The thing is i need to be able to control my blood sugars in time so things won't go wrong, and since mushrooms and lsd can go very long i don't think it would try them for my first trip, then i found that salvia lasts 10 till 15 min. But still im hesitating of the fact that it can hit pretty hard from the reports ive readen. I don't know what u guys think of it, but all advice and tips are welcome.

 

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Hi Sativa, welcome to the Psychonaut forum.

Although you are correct about the short duration of Salvia, unfortunately the Salvia experience is very different from the psychedelic experiences that follow the ingestion of mushrooms, LSD, DMT or mescaline. Some people appreciate the effects, but many more think it's just too weird to be useful. The experience can be uncomfortable and you generally don't reach the state of tranquility and bliss that is often achieved on trips of a longer duration. Do you have a friend who could stay sober and take care of your blood sugar level while you have your first experience on one of the classic psychedelics? Have you considered trying ayahuasca? The peak usually lasts between two and four hours.

 

[dennis1978]

Hmmm...
Have you ever considered DMT, the spirit molecule?
This has a short duration aswell, and is actually more like an actual trip from psylocibe.

You might want to have a look at that.

 

[Sativa]

Thanks for the responses and advice.
Well i have a friend who i can fully trust that he will stay sober and help me if things go wrong.
I also have seen alot of reports on the fact that salvia is pretty strange, yet i thought it would be a good start.
About the dmt, i did read tons of stuff on dmt, but from things ive readen and heard in real life i don't think i will be ready for such a (mindblowing) trip... since dmt is considered as one of the insanest drugs on earth? But i also did find some stuff with people comparing salvia to dmt, i don't know anything of truth behind this comparison?
Ill also look up for some info on the ayahuasca.
I do have some friends who are planning on trying philosopher stones, do u guys have any info about their strenght and lenght?

 

[Jahvisions]

Although the text below is about salvinorin A, smoking the plant, especially exctracts can have similiair experiences, best is if you chew it, if you are looking for a short trip I would recommend nn-dmt, 5-meo-dmt or ketamine

Some quotes from: http://www.erowid.org/library/books_onl ... /toc.shtml

Those using salvinorin A find it frequently induces experiences of an intensity level which is an order of magnitude beyond those experienced with any other psychedelic, even DMT. The dimensions visited under the influence of salvinorin A are described as extremely bizarre and varied, with several aspects not common to other psychedelic experiences.

Many who have used salvinorin A find the experience extremely unnerving, frightening and overly intense. Most have no desire to repeat the experience.

As mentioned earlier, most who have tried salvinorin A find its effects extremely unsettling, and have no desire to repeat the experience. This response comes from people who are highly experienced in the use of entheogens, including many who are writers or leaders in the psychedelic community.

The use of salvinorin A presents some extreme dangers which are not encountered on other psychedelics. After smoking salvinorin A, some users will stand up and begin walking or moving around, running into objects that are in their path.

Occasionally people who have been given salvinorin A, even highly experienced psychedelic users, feel that a bad0 joke has been played on them by whoever gave them the substance. One person who tried salvinorin A, who is quite experienced with DMT and most other psychedelics, remarked "It made DMT look like a water pistol, at a dose 50-100 times less."

The intensity of a salvinorin A journey is often experienced as being an order of magnitude more potent than smoked DMT, in much the same way that DMT seems an order of magnitude more potent than a typical LSD journey. A large percentage of salvinorin A users also report that the fear factor is much greater than with DMT, which is saying a lot. I feel that no person, no matter how experienced with other psychedelics or altered states of mind, can be prepared for the intensity of a full-strength salvinorin A journey. It is common for users to be shocked, amazed and frightened, at finding themselves in a state they could not possibly conceive of being induced by any psychedelic substance.

 

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since dmt is considered as one of the insanest drugs on earth? But i also did find some stuff with people comparing salvia to dmt, i don't know anything of truth behind this comparison?

Salvia trip reports tend to be way more insane than DMT trip reports. DMT is just very powerful and intense, of course depending on the dosage. It isn't as weird as Salvia. I think smoked Salvia and DMT can only be compared in terms of their quick onset and duration, not in the way they alter consciousness.

 

[trick]

ugh.. no salvia isnt somewhere to start off with.

its a very abstract and uncomphortable and also unforgiving trip.
and i havent read anything about lsd or shrooms effecting blood sugar.