Advertising should be banned !

[spice]

Well said, my hat is off to you.

Yes, we are manipulative as a race of beings. Watch any documentary on chimpanzees and other advanced non-human primates and notice how conniving they are, stealing each others children, fomenting revolutionary overthrows of the established powerholders, raiding food stashes....

That being said, there is a big difference between MANIPULATION and PERSUASION......

Being persuasive is an adaptive behaivour like what you described; children asking nicely for candy, etc....we NEED to learn persuasion, it HELPS us.

No one is criticizing persuasion as a behaivour.

I am specifically singling out mass advertising as a MANIPULATIVE, COERCIVE behaivour, based on repetition ( which is the way our 'software' learns useful things, as well as this shit) ....

The repetition part slowly erodes our good judgment, like chinese water torture ( or American waterboarding).

Anyone who has trouble understanding the point of my tirade against advertising isnt wanting to get it.

Why just give in?

Why NOT rail against it?


The mushrooms, and the acid, told me a long time ago that I didn't have to change all these things by myself, thats too big of a job for any person. They told me that MY purpose is to sow these realizations, exhaustively, across EVERY terrain I travel, and that the interconnectedness of all people will amplify these things in its own way.


In other words, awareness is the ultimate atom bomb, it just functions on a slower scale.


You ( ANY OF YOU ) don't have to DO a damn thing to stop this stuff....once awareness reaches a certain critical mass, change will explode across the globe, like a California wildfire...

Our assignment is to spread the word, intelligently as possible, to as many people as possible. Sometimes manners and propriety have to take a backseat to the flow of information.

The flow of information and increasing awareness is humanities only hope to live a somewhat free existence.

 

[Forkbender]

The only way to fight this thing is to persuade people to not listen to advertisements. The only way to do that is to educate them, to show that there is a hidden agenda behind every story, namely the agenda of the people (or corporation) telling the story.

The thing about persuasion is that it always leaves you with a nasty aftertaste, because deep down inside you know that somehow you did not actually need another I-pod. Persuading people not to listen to advertisements has that danger as well. Instead of persuasion, it is better to seduce people in a way in which they think afterwards: "I did this all by myself", yet they did not. And nobody ever really does.

People, myself included, are too stupid in too many ways to truly set them free, so that they won't be manipulated in any way. The only thing to counter this stupidity is awareness, in whatever form it may come. I don't think it has necessarily to do with advertisement to be beneficial. If you become aware of how your body reacts to the foods you put into it, this might help too. It's one big process of growing awareness.

The biggest thing (and the most illusional for that matter) holding us back from growing awareness is fear. Fear of not being able to live one's life, fear of not being good enough, fear of not getting in to gradschool/a good job/heaven, fear of not getting laid, fear of getting some disease, etc. We are in general so afraid that we are afraid of fear itself and are willing to believe anything that promises to reduce this fear. These fears are the weak spots on which manipulation works. Fill your fears with love and you will cease to be manipulated.

 

[Forkbender]

Why NOT rail against it?

Because in my experience it is a strawman. Love thine enemy, cause all they want is being loved.

 

[mysticwarrior]

I had an very exciting adhd morning My thought did go so fast, that i even forgot what i was writing And damn, I really need to practice my english

I am specifically singling out mass advertising as a MANIPULATIVE, COERCIVE behaivour, based on repetition ( which is the way our 'software' learns useful things, as well as this shit) ....

It's true what you say, and i also think advertisement should be banned, or in fact i think the television should not be abused by the these wrong people who are bombing us with their advertisement propaganda shit. It's annoying, i totally agree. And i`m sure the awareness will grow till it explodes It happen to all bad things, and it's just a matter of time.

Why NOT rail against it?

Because i follow my intuition, and know for sure that others like you, will fight this part of the game with your thoughts. Years ago, i fighted anything around me. Everything was bad etc. This rebellion made me tired, i was totally empty and jailed in my own thought. I would not buy anything from multinationals and where strictly vegan etc etc. so i think i should not allow these thought anymore, and just need to learn to enjoy life, love life and everything whats around me. And i feel it helps me, it feels good. This intuition showed me the bad things, did let me experience the hard aspects on life, while right now it shows me the beautifull aspects of life. You know, it's just a story that's continuing.

Greets,
Mysticwarrior.

 

[random]

We even need to love hell, before we can live in heaven.

And to love it, we must understand it.

JUST LIVE, EXPERIENCE AND TRYING TO HAVE A GOOD TIME

That's what everybody does (masses).
The hard thing is to convince them to get their asses into that rabbit hole and then come out again and "Just live, experience....".
Hopefully they will invent a kind of "GPS", so people don't need to move their ass to see, how deep the hole goes, by themselfs
What I mean is that, I can barely make my mother go near the hole (or the "hard-heads" that surround me), how can I make humanity to go in there? I know I can't. But that's the point. Once again, I believe that our Oneness will take care of that issue.

It can frustrate you, but just take a piss and laugh about these noncense can be fun to

It frustrates me in a funny way. I laugh about all the stupidity, but deep inside I'm falling with the thought "How can things be like this?". Yet rising by standing above their weakness and cheap game plays.
Anyway, one hour of television distributed by 30 days is enough to know how things are going on that side.

... I didn't have to change all these things by myself, thats too big of a job for any person. They told me that MY purpose is to sow these realizations, exhaustively, across EVERY terrain I travel, and that the interconnectedness of all people will amplify these things in its own way.
...
Our assignment is to spread the word, intelligently as possible, to as many people as possible. Sometimes manners and propriety have to take a backseat to the flow of information.

Exactly.
Spreading Good Information and Love, is our Duty. Our Job. And our WILL. And that's the Best we can do.

Life Is Your Right. And one should not throw it away, because some ignorant guys that have in their hands a lot of Paper are destroying peoples minds, earth health, and Life itself (Unknown).

The biggest thing (and the most illusional for that matter) holding us back from growing awareness is fear. Fear of not being able to live one's life, fear of not being good enough, fear of not getting in to gradschool/a good job/heaven, fear of not getting laid, fear of getting some disease, etc. We are in general so afraid that we are afraid of fear itself and are willing to believe anything that promises to reduce this fear.

Like a beaten dog is afraid of the beater. Humans are afraid of their own Boundaries. They are afraid to cross them, to go further. And worst, most of the people don't even know that there are boundaries to be crossed. So they just fear something they don't even know what it is.

Once again, "Spreading Good Information and Love is our Duty. Our Job. And our WILL. And that's the Best we can do."

Show them the hole, is all we can do. We can't accompany each person to their journey in the hole.

Love

 

[tryptonaut]

I agree. Watching television is a way to 'understand thine enemy'.

I work for commercial tv - muhahahaha!
In private I do watch some commercial tv out of interest in how certain segments are made, but other than that I only watch public television (documentaries and stuff), good movies and good tv series (like Dexter). You wouldn't believe how many cameramen there are out there working for commercial tv who at home are watching everything between film noir and documentaries, but never this commercial tv bullshit...

The tv business is kinda sick because most people involved in the making of the crappy shows can't even believe themselves how bad this shit can be and still get excellent viewer ratings.
I sometimes get the feeling that working for boulevard tv makes people feel great because they feel so much better than their audience "I can feed them this crap and they love it - oh my god I feel so much better about myself now"!

 

[GOD]

"I sometimes get the feeling that working for boulevard tv makes people feel great because they feel so much better than their audience "I can feed them this crap and they love it - oh my god I feel so much better about myself now"!"

I totaly agree . At the moment i`m watching "Fight club" on Eurosport and its absolut SHIT . Badly put together , the comentater is an absolut arsehole and spoils every single fight ( and the darts and snooker ) . He never stops talking , as if hes had speed , and hasnt got the slightest idea what hes talking about . I have complained X times but they think that they are so superior that they dont listen . I`m sure if i could produce the program i could make it to cult very quickly , but they dont have to listen , they get paid , for producing SHIT . Its totaly SHITY having to turn the sound off to get rid of the bastard , you totaly loose the atmosphere , the sound and the exitement in the hall .