9/11 Investigation

[restin]

I only know of GOD and Brainie understanding German.

http://www.punkt.ch/inland/story.html?n ... wsid=51690

For the others: The source (a daily, free swiss paper) yesterday (9.11) posted a column about Swiss researchers that want a new 9/11 investigation (ref. Matrix in Action). They say that the official explanation is not sufficient enough.

They raise the question:

Why the army wasn't able to shoot down the captured planes.

How a person that didn't even solve the test for a Cessna was able to fly into a Pentagon with a maneuvre that also professionals judge as difficult.

Why the building crushed. They also have the thesis that there is a high probability that there were explosives in the Tower.

Why there was insider trade e.g. on American Airlines stocks that later made a LOT of money.

They get in distance from conspiracies and only raise the question about a new investigation.



Don't attack me, I am just the messenger Quite interesting that they are doing this officially now. But I doubt if someone will listen to swiss (!) researchers (!). Switzerland has absolutely no influence and researchers are only laughed about. But nice approach.

 

[GOD]

Its definately not one big centralised conspiracy , but maybe several small ones and several coverups + several cases of total incompatence . I have dificulty with it because of the amount of people who would have had to take part and the amount of people who must know something .

There was another anti conspiracy program on TV here yesterday taken from the US history channel and they talked about building 7 and offered some very convincing information aboutb how it could have colapsed without any explosives .

It needs clearing up .

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I have dificulty with it because of the amount of people who would have had to take part and the amount of people who must know something .

Only a relatively small amount of people need to know the grand scheme, the rest can just be controlled by the bureaucratic and authoritarian structure. If I am trained to do without question what is asked of me by my boss, who's taught to obey the dictates of his boss, who has learned to blindly follow the commands of his boss etc., I can easily be engaged in staging a heinous act without being aware of it.

 

[restin]

that's the whole problem, being in the Agent State makes it easier to commit crimes.

I am also not sure, no I really doubt if such an investigation, a fertile investigation will be fertile, I just wanted to post it because we talked about it in another thread.

 

[st.bot.32]

Interesting to see... we can always hope there will be another independent review of the towers. Of course, with each passing year it will get more and more difficult to find out the facts of what really happened.

A bit of humor

 

[GOD]

The need to know basis .

It would take a lot of people a lot of time to plant the explosives in 3 buildings . Plus the people who are suposed to have remotely controled the planes that hit the 2 buildings from the CIA plane flying over the city . Plus the planners .

They would know everything .

Then there are the people who played some of the parts . Some of them would be able to put 2 and 2 together .

Thats why i say i dont think its one big conspiracy and why i think it might have been several smaller ones .

I think its a dangerous mistake to insist on or push the one big conspiracy theory . I think it would be better to agree that there are a lot of questions that need answering and insist on them being properly answered .

 

[restin]

you made me very curious, GOD. What do you mean with little conspiracies? E.g. that the terror act was real but the regime knew it and didn't do anything against because e.g. they didn't think it would be that hard/would be realized? That type?

 

[Carebear]

What a facade his was..
So huge, common folk can`t even begin to question the validity of this "catastrophy"

The reason why still remains.
Oil? i doubt that, must be more to it....

 

[BrainEater]

that's true. control....................

 

[GOD]

Restin .

If the amis knew anything in advance , and they must have if any of the conspiracy theorys have a basis ...... who told them ? ( The french , germans , spanish governments have admited that they had some information that something was going to happen in advance ) . There is only one country that can infiltrate muslim terrorist groups = the isrealis .

Who profited ? The people behind the american government , big american companys and international financial familys/dynastys and most of all the israelis .

 

[magickmumu]

The protocols of Zion?????

 

[BrainEater]

it's only logical.... isrealis own the oil.... USA need to ensure oil for their country ....


also the harvester of souls a.k.a. the grim reaper benefits, but the people with money are alright with that....


peace.

 

[GOD]

"The protocols of Zion?????"

I am not a nazi or anti semitic . I am realistic . "The protocols of Zion?????" are a very , very bad forgery .

 

[BrainEater]

what the fuck ??? elaborate please

 

[restin]

If the amis knew anything in advance , and they must have if any of the conspiracy theorys have a basis ...... who told them ? ( The french , germans , spanish governments have admited that they had some information that something was going to happen in advance ) . There is only one country that can infiltrate muslim terrorist groups = the isrealis .

I didn't state, I only proposed...there is always insider info...

So are you stating that most probably it were the israelis or are you saying that this proposal is bullshit? If so, explain.

There are a lot of israelis in USA and Russia of course...but that's a fearless statement.

 

[GOD]

Restin i dont understand what you just said . Please explain and i will try to explain what i mean .

Again . I am not anti semitic . I`m not anti israel or against the israeli people . But i am very anti the controling clique behind the israeli government and the israeli governments neo nazi politics .

Brain eater . The protocols of zion are a very cheap and very nasty nazi text that jumps on the suposed jewish world conspiracy band wagen . It has been proved to be a very bad forgery . It was written or suposed to have been written by someone in russia .

 

[restin]

I just wanted you to explain your thought a bit.

Are you saying that the israeli clique informed the US government or are you saying something else (when you say little conspiracies)?

 

[GOD]

I think that there was an israeli government component . I also think that there was probably several conspiracys with different information , diferent conclusions and that nobody new everything , but that some people new more than others . The thought that the whole thing was one big centraly planned , organised and controlled thing is to much for me . But maybe i`m wrong , its only my feelings and what i think to be my intuition . I think one also has to think things from the other direction as well = who profited and where could the information that was known to several secret services and governments have come from ? And that after doing that one must have the thoughts that i mentioned .

 

[magickmumu]

"The protocols of Zion?????"

I am not a nazi or anti semitic . I am realistic . "The protocols of Zion?????" are a very , very bad forgery .

that's true.

 

[restin]

I see, thanks for the explanation.

It really makes sense to me but I know very little of the possibilities and real cruelty of the US government. E.g. it is hard to believe that the government sacrificed 5000 people for money and if there are no planes, where did the people disappear to? There are a LOT of vague questions no supporter of large conspiracies can answer rationally and without sounding megalomaniac. I although am pretty sure that there were people who knew more, but I can't say how much (as you don't :wink: )