1st time user; Please help....

[JohanV]

Hi my name is Johan, and I am from Holland.

Not completely unexperienced; I am a party-drug user.
(acctually everything like xtc or other MDMA-like drugs)

Here I have lying before me: 1 gram of 5x extract of Salvia.
I have never tried mushrooms, for a simple reason: The effects take too long for me....
But now salvia! Should be no longer than 45 minutes...

But here is THE question: How much should I take?
My girlfriend can be a sitter (altough she is absolutely unexperienced with drugs).

I smook weed every day, so I have a bong and a small pipe.
And my lungs can handle some...

So my idea is not to much, becouse I do not want to freak-out my girl completely, altough she is okee with it.

I was thinking about 1/10 of the extract, is that a good start? (0,1 gram)
Or should it be to little?
Can I try a higer dose later in the evening, if this is a to little dose???
(with xtc you get only one chance of doing it good, thatswhy this question)

Hope to hear from you soon, thanx!!!

 

[WaseFraKa]

well if you would have looked for a few secs arround you would have found your answer....

but well....try with 0.1gr in a bong and see what happens (see how your body reacts and so on)...if you're lucky you'll be completely taken by the plant but it won't be long....max 2min...after it's like a small buzz....
try to heat the salvia with a torch lighterand constant lighting as it requires a high temperature to release salvianorum a, but it will work with a normal lighter
if you want to make a second shot try do do it as fast as possible ....after a few minutes it will not work as good...better wait 30min-1 hour before retrying...

if you fear salvia just try with your small pipe, for me the effects were always a lot less...

for myself I never had a full blown trip...it was always like 10-15 sec

 

[ProStoner]

if it still doesnt work after a couple of tries u might wanna wait a couple of days
oh and keep the smoke in for atleast 30seconds and make sure u inhale it deep
make sure u sit or lie down comfortably maybe a soft music some dimmed lights
to raise spirituality
remember that u don't have to be scared of whatever happens .. the full blown effect "if" it occurs wont take longer then 20 minutes especially not with 5x
u might be completely swept away by the hallucinations
if u do feel scared
make sure ur girlfriends tries to make u remember the reasons why u tried this
"because u thought it would be fun" or whatever and often talking alone will take u back to reality, or remember ur still sitting there in the chair
good luck

 

[JohanV]

Thanx for the answers so far....

I am not scared, but just for my girl, I dont want her to panic.
Thats all.
I think we wil be allright.
I'll try the lighter doses atfirst.

Kinda stupid, because with xtc I take 2 pills at a time, and sometimes even 3 with pauses of 10 minutes after eatch other.
And believe me, these arent bad pills.
But somehow, because I dont know what Salivia is like, I want to be very safe...

I will let you now about my first experience...

 

[ProStoner]

I can completely understand that u want it to be safe
those are natural worries we all have em
maybe u should make some agreement thingy about the panic with your Gf
like if u start to think somehow she is in panic or something
ask her and make up some word that will surtainly remind u that she is anything but in panic
good luck !

 

[Beanieboy]

I bought regular leaf off the internet.
It was about $35 for 4 oz. Not using the metric system, it comes out to 112 grams! So, I was looking at a quart size baggie filled with 100-200 leaves, in total disbelief, and thought, "um, did I just buy a big ass bag of leaves?"

But even regular strength works for me, after 2 or 3 hits.

So, 5x, is simply = 5 grams put into 1 gram of leaf. This means you need to smoke less.

While reg. strength may require .75 g, 5x will only require 1/8 g.
10x may require a pinch, or .1

But the basics -
Be somewhere where you can lie down.
It's good to have dim light, and silence is better than music, because it's kind of like dreaming, and the sound can sometimes interfere with the experience.
And expect it to come on fast.
Hold the lighter over the salvia the entire time, and hold it for 20-30 seconds. (In my experience, after 20 seconds, time seems to expand, you forget that you are holding your breath, and when you exhale, it seems like you've been holding it for 5 minutes.)

Before you do it, get relaxed, figure out why you want to do it, what you want to learn. Remind yourself that this is going to feel a little weird, and only lasts about 15 mintues. Remind yourself that you are in this world, and that you will return to this world (often people think they have to "get back" to their world.)

I find the quid/tincture method, which is the traditional method, far more gentle. It doesn't blast you off into Salvia Space, and then throw your ass back down on the ground. Rather, you start to feel the effects, they slowly grow stronger, you are in Salvia Space for a bit, then slowly return. One experience was described waiting for the Goddess was like waiting for a deer. You have to be quiet, still, and reverent. However, the quid/tiincture also seems to last a bit longer, the come down slower, but it's very pleasant.

Hope this helps.