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  1. endlessness

    Constipation - herbal remedy?

    Papaya and fibers (such as granola) every morning works wonders for my grandpa. Papaya is a natural laxative, and fibers are good for digestion, and help clean the intestines.
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    super high me

    do you know the temperature that they both work with? higher temperature could mean more particle/vapors, even if its not combusting yet
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    super high me

    but if you vaporize, even though the plant matter doesnt enter into combustion, still other things appart from thc are vaporizing, such as terpenoids and so on. Maybe this produces more smoke, and that would answer your question?
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    Spanish police seize 40,000 doses of ayahuasca

    im pretty sure that the 40.000 number was way off.. I will try to find the spanish news again but I think maybe what they had was 40 kilos of caapi. there was a whole deal about them advertising in vegetarian bars, charging quite some money, offering discounts for under age and kids. and then...
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    Psychedelic books banned in europe?

    yes I saw its available in germany also, so its weird. obviously the education books cant be the problem the sticker is written in english, exactly as I wrote: "Goods do not meet requirement of article 9 and 10 of the contract for the foundation of the European Community. " It was attached to...
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    Psychedelic books banned in europe?

    I bought the 'encyclopedia of psychoactive plants' book by christian raetsch from Amazon USA to europe. It arrived in Frankfurt and then came to the country Im in. Together with this book were two books on ecological and sustainable education The parcel had been opened by customs in germany...
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    Spanish police seize 40,000 doses of ayahuasca

    it said in some spanish news that they were all (including the kids) watching pornographic movies at the time of the bust.. sounded pretty weird
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    Stichting OPEN presents: Vine of the Soul: Ayahuasca Night

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    I f*kd up, I need your help (undercover, DEA, JAIL)

    all im saying is that its an option to consider I mentioned specifically that depends on each case, that he should see about his own situation, and that risks and benefits have to be measured, etc etc Im not advising anything rushed. Anyways, one just cant know the exact outcome of things...
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    I f*kd up, I need your help (undercover, DEA, JAIL)

    if he gets caught its all about measuring advantages and disadvantages, risks versus benefits, etc
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    I f*kd up, I need your help (undercover, DEA, JAIL)

    I would run away fuck that shit! you are only arrested once inside the bars. before that, its all up to you and your hands and legs I would go mexico overland, then further south and either stay in south america, or go back to europe from there Better to have a totally unexpected mystery...
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    Police set to step up hacking of home PCs

    Fucked up. Funny how at the same time there are all these things pointing to a darker big-brother type future, and then again other good breakthroughs in terms of eco-technology, psychedelic research, etc Lets see what happens in the end I always used windows because 'it was just there'...
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    what's your favorite qoute/poem/aphorism,ect...?

    already many nice ones posted some of my favourite quotes are from sufism here's a few A donkey with a load of holy books is still a donkey. Traditional (Essential Sufism) If someone remarks: "What an excellent man you are!" and this pleases you more than his saying, "What a bad man you...
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    Daniel Pinchbeck - the future of psychedelics

    The case of superman is absurdly different, as people didnt write accounts as if he was real.. You say that the burden of proving is in the side of whoever considers his existence to be true.. I say that whoever denies absolutely his existence has the burden of proving beyond doubt that he...
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    Daniel Pinchbeck - the future of psychedelics

    as forkbender already said, socrates was also described by other people appart from plato, so that's evidence enough to at least consider its a valid possibility. Plato/socrates ideas are interesting way beyond just 'understanding the paradox of knowing that you know nothing'. BTW...
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    Just what you always wanted for Xmas

    well said :) would you mind expanding on how glucose works as a drug?
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    What would you do if you could synth LSD???

    words of wisdom spice I totally resonate with what you saiid
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    crystal DMT + MAOI - what dose?

    (no prob.. yeah im translating some work for uni here and have a bad habit of checking forums every few minutes, which obviously diminishes my rate of studying haha) well, as a sum up, I think the most effective way is a mixture of a cold soak and then a few boils the normal way.. just...
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    crystal DMT + MAOI - what dose?

    depends a bit on the caapi strenght and the way its prepared.. for me its maybe around 100.. maybe 100 to 150.. purging is very possible with such an amount of caapi.. but I guess your mate is experienced with these things anyways... and btw, the visions are not as ´in your face´ as when...
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    crystal DMT + MAOI - what dose?

    maybe 2 or 3 times the usual dose for admixture :)
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    Buying 5 MeO DMT

    if you email them about this, saying they sold you fake, what sort of answer do you get, if any? just curious.. what does it smell like, look like taste like? is it soluble in water? alcohol? non polar solvents? I guess you also tried different dosages and ways of smoking to make sure its not...
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    Oral DMT Questions

    I second that.. dont take pharmaceutical maoi, im sure you can either find syrian rue (Peganum Harmala) in some store or buy it on the net.. maybe God knows how likely this is (the forum god, not the deity :p ) , because I have no idea specially about what goes on in USA, but one should see if...
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    DMT, sequel in a sober state..

    have a good one :)
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    DMT, sequel in a sober state..

    I disagree dmt is not just a fast ayahuasca trip.. its qualitatively different.. It does not have all the teachings and personal revelations that aya does.. its more like, the pure visual, without much of the rest another thing is, the caapi is not there just for activating the dmt.. it has a...
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    Lol. so my friend smoked 150mg of dmt....

    I think each type of dosage has it´s own characteristics, pros and cons.. its not just an arithmetic dose-dependent progression of the same effects, and neither do I think there is a specific ´best point´.. SWIM has taken acid many times, in different dosages.. SWIM has already taken 8 acid...
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    DMT, sequel in a sober state..

    maybe you need to ingest it orally.. ayahuasca has definitely left many magic marks in my soul :)
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    crystal DMT + MAOI - what dose?

    Yes they are salts of alkaloids, or alkaloids in salt form. and no it does not mean that if its salt then its not alkaloid, because an alkaloid definition is not whether its found as freebase or not in nature. as said before, the word alkaloid is related to the nitrogen compound present in them...
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    crystal DMT + MAOI - what dose?

    no, then its an alkaloid in it´s tannate salt form. Alkaloids are naturally occuring compounds containing basic nitrogen atoms It retains the definition of being an alkaloid yes but the fact that the alkaloids are in salt form still remains with basically all the other plants too. I...
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    crystal DMT + MAOI - what dose?

    well yeah they are still alkaloids.. in a basic medium it becomes a ´freebase´, in an acidic medium it becomes a salt with the termination related to the acid ( acetate in acetic acid/vinegar, hydrochloride in HCL, etc). In the case of the plants, like in mimosa, it could possibly be DMT...
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    crystal DMT + MAOI - what dose?

    on a side note about the ´boiling not necessary´ it is a fact that it is not necessary to boil ayahuasca for an active brew all the alkaloids in ayahuasca are water soluble. B carbolines in caapi are. Also the dmt in the chacruna/chacropanga and also in jurema are all in salt forms and are...
  31. endlessness

    crystal DMT + MAOI - what dose?

    unless you are a pregnant woman.. in which case you might induce an abortion.. (though I guess if you were a pregnant woman you should anyways be avoiding all drugs in general :D )
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    Found a new tek... would like sum feedback on it!

    good yield and pure product is possible with a few tweaks in the straight to base teks.. mimosa has to be properly powdered, you need to do 4 or 5 pulls, freeze precipitation (not evaporation), and then recrystalize the final product.. I would also add a quick sodium carbonate wash before...
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    crystal DMT + MAOI - what dose?

    ok so... as for dosage, its always prudent to go to lower dosages, and you can always take more later or some other time.. From my own experience, though, 50mg is definitely too little. SWIM already took 200mg, and it was very strong, yes, but just perfect.. somewhere closer to 100 could be...
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    NaOH question

    whats the use of knowing its NaOH if you´re dead ? haha Not a very nice advise to give to people on the internet... but I guess if someone really tries this and fucks themselves up, its Darwinism at its best :D
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    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    he was talking about the worms that live in the shrooms, which means you are eating some non-vegetarian life form
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    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    yes you are technically right.. but for me its not about being absolute in my vegetarianism.. It´s more of respect to nature, not being exaggerated and wasteful.. The meat is a problem the way I see it because of the extremes, living in cages, hormones, forest cut down for making grazing...
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    Synchronized Hyperspace Event !

    sort of.. except im saying that the level in which they control it is more than what we westerners can, even experienced ones, so their presence in a ritual is a very interesting and unique thing (im talking about real shamans, not the ones that are all over even anouncing on the internet or...
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    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    yes I try to be conscious healthy eater.. I have a healthy mostly vegetarian diet, with the rare exception of some small-scale local fish.. I dont drink milk, but do eat organic free-running chicken eggs... definitely no commercial eggs.. I do drink yoghurt or kefir ocasionally but I make it...
  39. endlessness

    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    I would love a source on this 1 liter is a lot of milk, sounds like a good amount of b12.. Do you eat eggs or any cakes that have eggs, or cheese of any kind? these also have b12 also what we have to remember is that humans need as little as 2 micrograms a day of b12, and that we can form...
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    Synchronized Hyperspace Event !

    well, without going into the possibility of ´spirits´ that they could have the abilities of dealing with, just think about it: We all have been noobs once when taking psychedelics for the first times, and then we started to learn little by little, through direct experience, and by reading and...
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    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    well yes in general commercial milk is taken by machines, and cows only give this amount of milk by taking their calves away when they are born, so its quite shitty situation.. but small producers can get milk without taking the calves away and without machines (but you would need to know the...
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    Synchronized Hyperspace Event !

    feeling sarcastic today, are we? care to elaborate some more so we can have a discussion? I wouldnt even know where to start.. maybe about what ´psychological´ means, or the power of the psyche or maybe about the difference between the dynamics of group sessions and psychonautic sessions...
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    Synchronized Hyperspace Event !

    sure, dont worry I think most agree with you I just had another ritual with an amazon shaman here in Brazil this saturday, and definitely nothing can substitute this kind of thing, or tripping with friends or so on... its not a choice of one or the other.. SWIM is a psychonaut at heart and...
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    Synchronized Hyperspace Event !

    well, freebase dmt is illegal in most (all?) places, so ppl are not gonna just give it out to strangers.. but you can be sure that a lot (most?) ppl who do extract or synthesize dmt will give it away to people they know that are interested.. you can see how dmt is rarely sold, because people...
  45. endlessness

    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    lol check this out! when I was 2 years old:
  46. endlessness

    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    hahaha what sweet dogs :)
  47. endlessness

    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    Im very happy with the answers from all of you, thanks a lot :) Being from Brazil, I never found some equivalent from what you posted, mystic warrior.. but seems very nice, this yarrah food. I bet I wouldnt have the money for it, though, haha :D but im happy to know there is something like...
  48. endlessness

    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    any idea on how would a balanced vegetarian food for dogs be? like, proportions and stuff? or links maybe?
  49. endlessness

    how should vegetarians feed their pets?

    The usual dog food, for example, contains meat (red meat or chicken meat doesnt matter). and I would love if someone corrected me if im wrong, but I doubt it is best quality meat from well-treated, free-running and painlessly killed animals.. So if one is a vegetarian to not support this shit...
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    Synchronized Hyperspace Event !

    yeah sure, what is important is to bring psychedelic teachings into our normal world, using the insights productively and trying to become better people, and not uselessly speculating and wasting time on too much fantasies. this event is not against this in any way.. Its just an interesting...
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    Synchronized Hyperspace Event !

    Hello psychonauts! So one of the main questions we all have is whether the realms we encounter in our psychedelic journeys are real dimensions or just products of our mind and the actions of the substance. In order to test this, on the 9th of august, people from all around the world are gonna...
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    Newspaper, TV, do you subject yourself to them?

    yes, well said another way I try looking at it is like this: if we consider that every thing we put in to our bodies, whether it is through our mouth, lungs or ´filtered´ through the senses, it is as food to us. considering what our senses receive as food gives a whole new sense of...
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    The end of problems with radioactive waste

    yes you are right. I think anybody who considers to have the whole map is very mistaken.. the mysterious quality of existence will always surpass any explanation.. like that saying,´the bigger the island of knowledge, the larger the coast of doubt´ I guess what im doing here is looking at...
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    The end of problems with radioactive waste

    yes what you said, god, does make sense.. I didnt mean to imply that if there is such a connection, then it can mean that I can, for example, make the sun go blue just because we were all once together.. more like, that we could theoretically understand the universal pattern by looking at each...
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    The end of problems with radioactive waste

    youre right.. stoned posting has some negative aspects sometimes :) ok so let me talk about the first thing I said, later I go back to the rest druglessdouglas stated the scientific observation that if you put two electrons together, and then separate it, and you change the spin of one...
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    The end of problems with radioactive waste

    but if all molecules were together at the big bang, doesnt that mean that all the universe is already linked in this non-local connection ? how much could we extend this to macroscopic scales? because as far as I know, quantum doesnt say its impossible for quantum effects at macro scales, but...
  57. endlessness

    How far can you go with Ayahuasca?

    SWIM already went VERY far with ayahuasca and pharmahuasca SWIM had with 2,2g syrian rue and 200mg pure freebase dmt a very very strong trip with visuals comparable to smoking DMT, except they moved slower and SWIM had more time to examine all of it... SWIM also had many auditory...
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    Syrian rue ingestion

    hey sorry, I wrote it wrong its quinazoline (in the case of syrian rue its vasicine and vasicinone) here´s a link, from ott: http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06332ott.html to save you the trouble here´s the specific quote: :)
  59. endlessness

    Syrian rue ingestion

    do not eat capsule of pure seeds!! even though some people recommend it, thats not a safe way.. you want to get rid of the quizanoline compounds.. They are not (or little) soluble in acidified water, while the b-carbolines, which are the chemicals you want, are very soluble in acidified...
  60. endlessness

    i have a mimosa tree and need an maoi

    no caapi itself is the real ayahuasca, natema, yage, kamarampi.. most common admixture is psychotria viridis or diplopterys cabrerana mimosa was never used as a mixture with ayahuasca because it comes from a totally different geographical area... if there is use together, it is a new thing...
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    would prescription MAOI's substitute?

    its very different.. first of all, syrian rue does not exist in the amazon, so they couldn´t have learned about it and from it like they did with the countless years of ayahuasca use.. also, if we look in strict terms, your comparison is not valid because psilocybin is a different molecule (as...
  62. endlessness

    i have a mimosa tree and need an maoi

    nope, sorry you´re wrong.. first, by abortifaciant properties of the quinozaline compounds, I mean that pure rue in higher amounts can make pregnant woman abort.. but you´re wrong rue is toxic in all amounts and ways.. these toxic compounds are not soluble in water, so lemon extract leaves...
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    i have a mimosa tree and need an maoi

    I recommend against grinding up the rue seeds and ingesting them.. Syrian rue seeds, apart from harmala alkaloids which are the desired MAOIs, also contain quinazoline alkaloids which are more toxic (these quinazolines are the compounds that are responsible for the abortifacient properties of...
  64. endlessness

    Oral dose of freebase dmt

    dosage of oral freebase nn-dmt is generally 80-200mg ... SWIM took 200mg first time with 2,2g syrian rue and it was very good powerful trip the dosage of caapi seems to be from 30-60g, so you need much more (10-20 times more than rue)
  65. endlessness

    How to change the war on drugs (lets do it together)

    great, thanks for the replies! Ultima, thanks for the report, you´re definitely not the only one who felt that psychedelics can be a great tool to help us :) Subtle_Nod .. First about my cause, well, as I said, I dont necessarily think im going to change anything, but I dont say immediately...
  66. endlessness

    How to change the war on drugs (lets do it together)

    So here’s my plan: Write a very good text (however long that will turn out, who knows maybe a book) with coherent and convincing arguments for the legalization/decriminalization of drugs, and also with a plan/suggestions/ideas on how to actually put it in practice We see all around people...
  67. endlessness

    Smoking DMT while on acid?

    really? interesting.. I actually never heard terrence describing anything more specific about acid.. only saying it wasnt really for him, that he definitely prefered mushrooms and ayahuasca and dmt...
  68. endlessness

    Smoking DMT while on acid?

    I heard ppl saying it worked for them.. for me it didnt, at all.. it felt really strange Its hard to explain, I smoked a full dose that normally blows me away.. I definitely felt something, but the feeling got stuck, it was limited.. as if the trip was like a baloon that reached a roof and...
  69. endlessness

    Semantic considerations on drug-related vocabulary

    Ok lets see.. if I understand correctly, what you are saying in more general terms is that my argument can seem pleasing to us here, but to the wider straight audience, they would not be convincing, or in other words im ´preaching to the converted´, right? You have a valid point there.. Would...
  70. endlessness

    Semantic considerations on drug-related vocabulary

    thats exactly what I want: people to confront the ideas so I can see where the weak spots are.. if you have some time and patience and would like to be more specific on where exactly you think there are problems, where more argumentation is needed and so on, I would greatly appreciate it :)
  71. endlessness

    Semantic considerations on drug-related vocabulary

    thanks ppl :) yes sure, we all watch reality from different dynamic perspectives.. the existence of a fixed universal normality is an illusion. Just looking at the different societies, we can see how different the concept of normality and the vallued ideals are in each place and time... may...
  72. endlessness

    Semantic considerations on drug-related vocabulary

    here´s a text I wrote for university on misleading terminology of drug-related discussions.. comments welcome :) Semantic consideration on drug-related vocabulary and discussions In the 50s, two linguists, Edward Sapir and Benjamin Lee Whorf, brought the so called Sapir-Whorf hypothesis...
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    CONCRETE ideas on how to change this all?

    how to change the world? Here´s what I think.. First, stop looking at other´s mistakes.. Thats the initial step.. We always tend to look at how the world is bad, ran by evil secret groups, bush is to blame, whatever whatever... But then what do many of us do? Smoke cigarretes, use cars when...
  74. endlessness

    would prescription MAOI's substitute?

    telepathine = unconventional name for harmine peganum harmala and caapi both have exactly the same 3 harmala alkaloids (harmine, harmaline and tetrahydroharmine), but they have it in different concentrations (syrian rue has more harmaline, while caapi has more harmine and tetrahydroharmine)...
  75. endlessness

    would prescription MAOI's substitute?

    I never said they are natural.. Yes they are synthetic, and yes I even said it myself I preffer products that have thousands of years of human testing I dont think anybody ´should´ anything.. The original poster asked for a prescription MAOI.. This is what the thread is about.. I do not...
  76. endlessness

    would prescription MAOI's substitute?

    It makes a world of difference.. case 1 - reversible maoi - person takes reversible maoi that acts only on mao-a, and eats aged cheese - nothing happens case 2 - irreversible maoi - person takes irreversible maoi that acts on mao-b, and eats aged cheese - person has serotonin syndrome...
  77. endlessness

    would prescription MAOI's substitute?

    no. There are differences in maois such as, if they are reversible or not, act on mao-a or mao-b, which makes tons of difference for example for how it will work out with food interaction you are already supposing that whoever uses these pharmaceuticals are ´abusing´. Dont suppose too much...
  78. endlessness

    would prescription MAOI's substitute?

    well, I disagree... I can´t say it for myself, but a close friend has taken moclobemide several times as MAOI for pharmahuasca, and says only 150mg are necessary... Also just read the trip reports around, people usually take 150mg for this purpouse.. Lycaeum also mentions 75-100mg necessary...
  79. endlessness

    dmt on my own?

    if you have taken these substances before, you should know how you react to it.. there are many people who take it alone, but you can't make your decision based on these people.. there are also people who freak out if you have taken these substances and didnt freak out, and if you acted in a...
  80. endlessness

    AMAZING pharmahuasca

    SWIM self extracted it :) be careful with phalaris... have you researched it properly? some species have gramine, which is toxic.. I dont know if a standard A/B with defat step would remove it, you should find this out
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    How is nature so perfect?

    there is no problem to have different mycelium in the same dung.. many times when I go pick mushroom, there are more than one type of species in a single dung, and its no problem at all.. Just pick the right now if the mushroom itself is fine, thats it
  82. endlessness

    Favourite/Most Interesting book ?

    I only read the first one, and I really liked it, but I heard the other ones are not worth it.. so are the other ones worth it?
  83. endlessness

    How is nature so perfect?

    when one picks mushrooms, you dont find them on any cow dung.. there are thousands and thousands of cow dungs, where different spores go to and mycelium compete with each other.. Some of them the psychoactive ones win, others not... Thats why.. So yes there is a lot of contamination, but...
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    AMAZING pharmahuasca

    So I had a great experience with 2g syrian rue lemon-water infusion and 200mg dmt crystals.. Below is my trip report. It´s long, but dont be affraid of the size, I think you wont regret reading :) The Rue episode After a light early dinner, I waited a few hours for the digestion, and...
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    Questions about the effects of aya, dmt

    Here´s how I view the differences between the psychedelics, from my own experience: ACID - It is like a microscope, or a telescope, for the mind... Many of the mind´s faculties seem to be accelerated, more detailed, finer.. I seem to realize all the different hidden patterns in the stimulus...
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    would prescription MAOI's substitute?

    ok look how much syrian rue did you take, and in what way did you prepare it? this makes a lot of difference.. if you want a substitute for syrian rue or b. caapi, the one to get is MOCLOBEMIDE (aurorix) .. It is also a short acting Reversible MAO-A Inhibitor that has little or no...
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    LSD 1 day and mushrooms the next day? lsd effect mush trip?

    yeah I agree, I think it´s a much more complex issue than just ´where´ it happens (in which neurotransmitter).. That´s what I was trying to point out from the beginning, that there must be some other cause for the tolerance that is not only about which neurotransmitter is being used the fact...
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    What are your top 5 favourite drugs???

    -Ayahuasca / smoked dmt -Mushrooms -Peyote/San pedro/Mescaline -Hash -LSD
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    LSD 1 day and mushrooms the next day? lsd effect mush trip?

    well.. according to sources such as Riba and Nichols, DMT definitely goes through 2a receptors as a main pathway of action, so that can´t be the explanation why DMT shows no significant tolerance building.. In fact, studies have shown that 5HT2c plays a lesser role in the DMT experience because...
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    Favourite/Most Interesting book ?

    and another 2.. The exploits of the incomparable Mulla Nasrudin (super funny deep meaningful little stories from folklore sufi character) and Howard Marks - Mr Nice (autobiography of one of the biggest weed/hash smugglers, with all sorts of schemes he used, funny stories, people he met...
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    Favourite/Most Interesting book ?

    If you enjoy Rumi, definitely check out his MASNAVI book.. Add that to my favs list :)
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    Favourite/Most Interesting book ?

    nice books: Robert Anton Wilson - Cosmic Trigger Tendler - Brotherhood of eternal love, from flower power to hippie mafia Wolfe - The Electric Koolaid Acid Test Aldous Huxley - The Doors of Perception / Island Herman Hesse - Siddharta Schultes - Plants of the Gods Strassman - DMT The Spirit...
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    Trying to argue with an anti-drug government

    on a side note... if anybody wants the official information where it proves that netherlands has less weed use and drug-related deaths than neighbouring countries such as italy, germany, spain, france, UK and few others, the website is: http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/ as for the original topic.. I...
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    Shrooms to be banned in the Netherlands

    ahmmm... Sounds like the bible says otherwise :p
  95. endlessness

    pessoal ajudem me!!!lol

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    ???receitas-sintese???

    o fato de voce falar que quer ´sintetizar drogas em casa´ desta forma mostra que voce está querendo somente uma ´droguinha pra se divertir´ e não com um interesse sério sobre certas substancias para o desenvolvimento pessoal... isso é exatamente o que chama atenção da policia e da midia...
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