Tried Lsd, want to try DMT, what can I expect?

[Djones]

I've had Lsd 8 times this summer.
Although some of those experiences were a day after each other, I do think I've had enough this summer.
But now I wanna try DMT

I've heard it's stronger than Lsd, but in what way exactly?
And what else are the differences between Lsd and DMT?

 

[user_1919]

I have ZERO experience with N,N-DMT. But what I have heard from other people is that NOTHING can prepare you for the DMT realm. It is the most intense psychedelic experience you can achieve. On doses more than 30mg (I think) you experience full lose of visual reality. You meet entities and entites communicate to you. Also DMT is very rare to come across on the street, so you would most likly have to extract it. Also make sure you have it weighed up, espically if its your first time. It is avised you don't go over the 25mg dose your first time.

 

[????????]

why you took LSD two days in a row???

how was it??

 

[Guest]

I've heard it's stronger than Lsd, but in what way exactly?
And what else are the differences between Lsd and DMT?

You can't compare an apple to a bulldozer...

It's the most intense thing you will EVER experience (next to being born and dying probably) if you have the guts to take that last hit...
And it's not like your going to get DMT within a short period of time unless you have veeeeery good connections.
Ofcourse you could do it yourself, but that takes some practice on and searching for good techniques/methods.

If smoked properly it will propel you into a higher frequency of existence/consciousness in wich the laws of this physical experience are no longer relevant.
"Buckle up Dorothy, 'cause Kansas is going byebye!"

Ofcourse I was just talking about extracted DMT, not Ayahuasca.

I'd say read some more on the subject and make up your mind afterwards, because like user_1919 said, nothing can prepare you for that experience.
And believe me, the first time you're gonna think: Oh my GOD, now I did to much.
This is it, I'm going to die!
And yes, the ego dies and gets reborn again with less ego and selfishness as before if realised that all is one.

 

[GOD]

I agree with Space-is-the-place basicaly .

"Although some of those experiences were a day after each other"

It is impossible to get the same effect doing LSD on 2 following days , so if the effect you got were compairable it means that the LSD that you had was in a to low dose . A real LSD trip takes at least a month to get over mentaly , you dont want another one straight away usualy . And if you do you wait a month at least .

The LSD that is around today and the doses it comes in can not be compared to Ayahuasca . Take Ayahuasca first to get a view of what real psychedelics can do . In lab tests people cant tell the difference between LSD , Psilocybin and DMT .

The effects of smoking DMT can not be compaired to any other hallucinogen exept 5-Meo DMT wich is much stronger . And the seeing and talking to beings is not common , exept if you have read Terrance McKenna or heard about it from others before you smoke it .

"And believe me, the first time you're gonna think: Oh my GOD, now I did to much.This is it, I'm going to die! "

Yup , its like getting shot out of a cannon at the speed of light , and thats just the start of the start of the start of the aceleration . If you do it find someone who has experience in doing it first to be with you . Dosage isnt that hard , you usualy cant take more than three sucks before you loose contact with this reality .

 

[Forkbender]

Expect to learn that you shouldn't hold expectations as they are a projection of your own will to control the situation. That is never going to happen.

 

[bloodbrother778]

Ok if you've tried LSD,
the only way I can show you a connection between DMT and LSD is to say that DMT is like LSD times 1000, or even 1000000.
Even that lacks to describe it though.

You leave your life behind for this trip.
You get transported into another world.
This other world is completely indescribable.
There is nothing human in this world.
There are no rules or concepts.
There is absolute perfection.

As the people above said, nothing is comparable to it and nothing will prepare you for it, but there is one distinct thing that pops into my mind about DMT.

This isn't just a trip, or just visuals, these visuals actually interact with you. They interact without words - they actually enter your beeing and you understand everything they have to say without the need for words.
There is no controlling a DMT trip, you have to let go and let it take over, and it will amaze you beyond your wildest imagination.

 

[Guest]

Resistance is futile!!

 

[GOD]

"Expect to learn that you shouldn't hold expectations as they are a projection of your own will to control the situation. That is never going to happen."

Thats exactly what i think . As i`ve said loads of times , when people in lab tests get injected in the muscle with those drugs they cant tell the difference . I think you get what you are expecting , what you have been told or read that you will get .


Bloodbrother778 , I think you are talking about the diference between droping acid and smoking DMT ? = the diference between lighting a match and a super nova .


"Resistance is futile!!"

But John Luc won !!!

Live long and prosper .

 

[HeartCore]

Expect a massive flow of love

 

[bloodbrother778]

Bloodbrother778 , I think you are talking about the diference between droping acid and smoking DMT ? = the diference between lighting a match and a super nova .

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lol yes that would suffice, but i was trying to explain it to him in terms of LSD


as far as expectations go, you really can't have any because there is absolutely no telling where the trip will take you

there is one thing you could expect though and that is to be completely amazed and blown away by the experience

 

[Guest]

the diference between droping acid and smoking DMT ? = the diference between lighting a match and a super nova .

...or between mustard and wasabi, but that's just my 2 cents...

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...ouch, didn't realised I was feelin' so hungry...

 

[Brugmansia]

I was just wondering, how is Ayahuasca different than the chemical DMT. Apart from the instant knock-out.

I'm actually in doubt that there's anything more overwhelming than salvia/Ket/LSD. But the many stories tell me I have yet to discover a further step.

How's DMT in comparison with Nightshades then?

 

[bloodbrother778]

the diference between droping acid and smoking DMT ? = the diference between lighting a match and a super nova .

...or between mustard and wasabi, but that's just my 2 cents...

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...

...ouch, didn't realised I was feelin' so hungry...

perhaps you should try russian mustard, it gives wasabi a run for its money , both have horseraddish as the ingredient that gives it the most kick, but i like the flavor of the russian mustard better

I was just wondering, how is Ayahuasca different than the chemical DMT. Apart from the instant knock-out.

I'm actually in doubt that there's anything more overwhelming than salvia/Ket/LSD. But the many stories tell me I have yet to discover a further step.

How's DMT in comparison with Nightshades then?

With ayahuasca the intensity is much much less than smoked DMT,
I usually use terms of regular psychedelics when describing this to people just like I did above,

An ayahuasca trip is similar to a threshhold DMT trip (but longer in duration of course), which can be described as LSD or mushrooms, or any other run of the mill psychedelic times about 5 or 10. Meaning its noticeably more intense, like you actually get a lot of LSD or mushroom like visuals.

My only experience with ayahuasca didn't work out too well, I took about 7 grams of syrian rue followed by about 100 mg of DMT after about an hour. Syrian rue tasted horrible, but the taste of DMT was way worse. The trip lasted only a meager 2-3 hours, with the peak lasting only about 20-30 minutes. However, afterwards I had felt the worst I've ever felt. The MAOIs did not mix very well with me at all and put me in the worst mood ever for like 6 hours. So all in all I didn't think the trip was worth that whole ordeal and besides an ayahuasca trip just like anything else has no chance of reaching the level of a true DMT trip.


I'm not sure how you put salvia and k in the same category as LSD, or how you think that LSD is overwhelming, but if you think that then you probably shoul not try DMT because the analogy I usually use for LSD and DMT is that DMT is like LSD x 1000, but even that lacks in description. I had never tried K myself, and I will admit that salvia is intense in itself and until I had a real DMT trip I thought it to be more powerful than DMT. However a real DMT trip makes it look like a complete joke. The onset with salvia though is more sudden than with DMT. With salvia you are pretty much instantly dropped into some other reality, whereas with DMT there is a distinct short period of time (about the first 30 seconds or so) where you feel an incredible rush combined with the world starting to morph and transform, and after that you arrive in the other world. I would say this feels like riding a roller coaster through hyperspace. But it isn't until you get there that the real fun starts.

Once you "get off" the roller coaster you are completely somewhere else and words are simply too insignificant to be able to describe what you experience there.


As far as nightshades go, I've never tried them either and I would definitely not suggest anyone trying them. There's a high chance of dying from them as they are poisonous. And from what I understand the trip wouldn't be that great anyway. How would DMT compare to that......not at all.....but if you do die, you'll trip on DMT.

 

[Brugmansia]

Thank you pal. 8) I'll try Ayahuasca tonight.

Does anyone know or 250 EURO's is a reasonable price for 1 gram of the chemical DMT?

Falling unconsciouss and afraid of slipping away, followed by a total rollercoaster with no body is kinda like what I experienced with K-holing. Thought I'd lose breath for eternity. But DMT seems like total difference experience after the 'get off'.

 

[Guest]

Well, considering that a common dose is around 30mg (based on Erowid), this would cost you 7.5 euros for a trip, which is ok to my standard (altought I suppose you can have it for much lower if you extract it yourself)...

Now the question is, why would you buy 33 doses of DMT ?

 

[Guest]

Now the question is, why would you buy 33 doses of DMT ?

Why not?

If it's really good clean stuff...

 

[Guest]

But, I mean, don't people tend to do something like, 1 trip per month maximum ?

And if you intend to buy so much, isn't it then way more cheaper to do your own extraction ?

 

[Brugmansia]

Well, that's the price for the quantity which the supplier sells it for.

But it feels weird to pay that amount of money for 1 seal, even if it contains 1 gram. I'll weight it for sure and maybe try to get a sample. But I have no indication of what a reasonable price is.

 

[GOD]

"Does anyone know or 250 EURO's is a reasonable price for 1 gram of the chemical DMT? "

I`ve seen prices of up to 450 Euros for 1 gramm of pure chemical DMT . Extracts costed less .