Tibetian Book of the Dead
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It's a good read.
Try looking for 'The lazy man's guide to enlightenment' as well, really nice to prepare yourself for a trip.
Try looking for 'The lazy man's guide to enlightenment' as well, really nice to prepare yourself for a trip.
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its very useful for choosing how you re enter. it along with the Tibetan Book Of The Dead is invaluable reading for all serious psychonauts. read it over and over before you try to "use" it
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lol that is really fucked up shit, yet it has lot of truth in it....
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Your talking about two things . The tibetan book of the dead . A confused budist book based on shamanism . And the leary version wich was responsible for all the confusion about ego death and the problems that that caused .
If you have a brain and can keep a neutral , objective stance and not fall into mystisism the leary book is a good book to read . But most people dont .
If you have a brain and can keep a neutral , objective stance and not fall into mystisism the leary book is a good book to read . But most people dont .
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nothing is true. everything is permitted
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The psychedelic experienced (based on the Tibetan book of the dead) is good reading indeed, and practical to use. Leary and co did a great job bringing out this book.
The book is like a guide for a psychedelic experience.
I find it not surprising that Leary and co used the tibetan book of the dead as starting point for there psychedelic manual.
There seems to be a connection between psychedelics and death.
As a guide to the psychedelic realm the psychedelic experience is a good starting point.
As a introduction to Tibetan philosophy it is useless.
The book is like a guide for a psychedelic experience.
I find it not surprising that Leary and co used the tibetan book of the dead as starting point for there psychedelic manual.
There seems to be a connection between psychedelics and death.
As a guide to the psychedelic realm the psychedelic experience is a good starting point.
As a introduction to Tibetan philosophy it is useless.
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ego death is one of them.
The word ayahuasca for example can be translated into vine of the soul or vine of the dead
It is believed that one of the functions of ayahuasca is to come in contact with the souls of the dead ancestors.
The other side of dead is rebirth. This is also a major theme within the psychedelic experience.
The word ayahuasca for example can be translated into vine of the soul or vine of the dead
It is believed that one of the functions of ayahuasca is to come in contact with the souls of the dead ancestors.
The other side of dead is rebirth. This is also a major theme within the psychedelic experience.
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has it anything to see with the Tibetan book of death and life by Sogyal Rinpoché ?
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That's an archaic belief that contradicts the psychological views expressed by Leary et al in their book. I prefer to stick to that point of view as well, i.e. don't expect contact with actual ancestors, aliens, gnomes or spirits (Lady Salvia, "the mushroom" etc.), but rather just observe, focus, pay attention to what you see, think and feel. You don't need to believe that you meet real people in your dreams in order to benefit from the dream state. Similarly you don't need to believe there are subtle beings in order to benefit from the use of magical plants or chemicals. The concept of "the ancestors" is an archaic one that you'll find throughout Asia, Africa and the Americas, along with the concept of "God". Leary and most modern psychonauts lean toward the psychological interpretation of the psychedelic experience: what you see is a reflection of what's inside your mind, the good and the ugly. The mystical side of the experience concerns the perception of cosmic unity, not the meeting of entities from some other dimension. Of course, if your culture or peer group has taught you to believe those entities are real, you will see them and your visions will reinforce those beliefs.magickmumu a dit:
Having said all that, I didn't like the rest of the book (and its effect on the first trip I had after reading it), though it should be said the book is actually a manual for guided sessions, and I never had a guide.
Much better reading: anything by Alan Watts. He doesn't talk about psychedelics much, but his point of view is so rational and common sense, giving him a listen is one of the best ways to prepare yourself for the psychedelic experience, or to recover from it.
Link for The Lazy Man's guide:
http://freespace.virgin.net/sarah.peter.nelson/lazyman/lazyman.html
Video (author reading abreviated intro and first chapter):
