i tried different smart drugs with ephedrine basis and should admit it's nothing compared with chemical stuff... but u still can have fun... my best choice now is surely final E that even if looks like a substitute of real E, it feel much more as anphetamina... take 2 or 3 pills on empty stomach and drink a beer or two... u won't see that difference between the chemical and the herbal one... and furthermore no fu....ng hangover the day after!!!!
KiMO