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i now its dangerous ppl have died. but i made a tea b4 and it made me go to sleep so does anyone know any reliable way to bcome intoxicated/delirous in a safe way? i have a shit load of dreied seeds but dont know how to ingest them w/out over dosing and dying. i want hallucinations. and hopefully a good delerium
 
If your really keen on the idea of ingesting datura seeds (and I thoroughly encourage you NOT to), and you have alot of seeds, I would suggest taking it reeeaaal slow. i.e. grind and take one, wait a week, grind and take two, wait a week grind and take 4 etc. until you have "your" dose.

I know its not really my business, but I assume you've got a sitter or two lined up (ones that can restrain you if required)?

I also assume we're talking datura (small black seeds - mine have a little white bit on the side), and not brugmansia or others? I think brug. seeds are larger, so might be stronger per seed..

The dose with datura is messed up, I've heard of people becoming delerious from a few seeds, and people needing teaspoons of them.

I personally think it's a bad idea, but good luck if you do go ahead, and if you live through the experience, let us know how it went, if you remember anything.





http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura_dose.shtml
 
uh no sitters i could go by my cousin o make sure nothing happens if i start feeling bad. fuck that last time i took about 15 or 20 and made a tea and my legs started huting a lil but it went away and then i just went to sleep. just made a tea of about 15-20 seeds and ill drink it later tonite and maybe try to make a post while under delerium. or i might just fall asleep like last time or maybe die. idk
 
you're crazy. i love it!

(though i may not encourage!)

i hope you don't die for sure. if so i hope it was worth it! \M/
 
Have you tried diphenhydramine? can be bought over the counter, and is meant to have similar effects to datura (deleriant / halucinogen), but I have a feeling its more standardisable dose-wise than seeds, and probably less toxic (although still pretty bad for you).

I use the stuff to get to sleep when I really have to (i.e. when the guy living above me is having a party, and I have to be up in the morning).

50mg is good for sleeping, I think "as little" as 150mg can produce hallucinations.. but you could probably verify that yourself on google, wikipedia, erowid.

Haven't done it myself (I'm not entirely interested in true halucinations), and again I don't think its a good idea, but maybe diphenhydramine is a good thing to use to "dip your toes in" to see how you warm to the experience.
 
ya actually i have tried diphenhydramine usually mademe to sleepy to get alotta hallucinations but i remember like a piece of paper would flicker and seem to move alot and i hated it cuz id have like try to slleep and itch and not a pleasant experience. ya i am a lil crazy i drank it at 4:50 but i seemed to get really hungry and ate two cups of jello and some pizza so idont know if anythings gunna happpen. maybe ill try again tommorrow if nothing happens tonite
 
In fact, there's no difference between any Solanaceae plant apart from the potency in alkaloids and variation.

The 'safest' way is to smoke dried leaves from the brugmansia/datura flowers from the outer side of the tree/plant. Seeds are also smokable when crushed.

The most riskful ingestion is to eat the red fruits in the center from the belladonna. Which should be avoided, even if you're a shaman. Chances of comitting suicide is common with this method.

Smoking it is however, much 'lighter' than oral ingestion. Feeling like you're in a dream, no gravity, and all the good and evil of yourself is splitted and goes it's own path.

There's a wonderful side in their family which may be only witnessed by a very few of the users. If the 3 don't like you, they make your life and existance a burning hell.

You might have a chance to enter the gate to the wonderful garden, once you've stepped over the line, the gate will close behind your back. Demons, gnomes and what not may occur in this garden when you're stepping further. You might be able to sneak back when the gate hasn't fully closed yet.

Be extremly careful, you don't have an idea yourself or the plant is on set or not, this magical and yet powerful effect of the drug, makes it extremly hard to stay tied with even a little bit of reality.

You might feel as you're turning blind in the beginning. Somewhat umpleasant and capivated with black magic as it has been described in fairytales with witches.

As for the serious physical risks and mental disorientation/mindfuck, go to Erowid, which I assume you've read extensively from A to Z already. If not, don't ingest Jimson Weed!

And HAVE A SITTER who knows what Solanaceae plants are! It needs to be someone who can tell a medical emergency team about the alkaloids. Someone who's willing and knows how when to give you a shower if you don't want it. Forcing you to drink. And someone who needs to be prepared to stay awake for 24 hours if neccesary.

These are just a few rules.
 
already experimented with diphenhydramine. wanted to see if natural deleriants/hallucinogens are different. im not feeling shit ill try again tomorrow using more seeds cuz i only used only like 15 .so does about 50 seeds being seeped in a coffee cup of boiling water sound like a good guestimate for delerium?
 
i want hallucinations. and hopefully a good delerium
I would recommond NOT taking Datura, and maybe try Aminita Muscria. Please be careful.

PEACE & LOVE
 
ok havent taken any more seeds but i just took 12 draminine and 1 adderal xr 20 mg. b4 to counter act the drowsines cuz ddint have much in the way of caffeine. no one will probably read this while im delerious so im not gonna write anything about the trip unless ya want
 
Devo a dit:
i now its dangerous ppl have died. but i made a tea b4 and it made me go to sleep so does anyone know any reliable way to bcome intoxicated/delirous in a safe way? i have a shit load of dreied seeds but dont know how to ingest them w/out over dosing and dying. i want hallucinations. and hopefully a good delerium

You sir, are a fucking idiot. End of discussion.
 
Bighead a dit:
Devo a dit:
i now its dangerous ppl have died. but i made a tea b4 and it made me go to sleep so does anyone know any reliable way to bcome intoxicated/delirous in a safe way? i have a shit load of dreied seeds but dont know how to ingest them w/out over dosing and dying. i want hallucinations. and hopefully a good delerium

You sir, are a fucking idiot. End of discussion.

people like you are fucking idiots. obviously this isn't the safest thing he could do, nor would i recommend it. but to judge someone for wanting to experience a state of mind through drugs -- when you yourself use drugs -- is FUCKING retarded.
 
Bighead is not an idiot or retarded . Hes a wise man . Playing with toys is good for kids . Playing with matches or explosives isnt . In my opinion anyone who considers taking anything like that is a masochist or at least a dangerous fool . There is no such thing as a good delerium and i`ve never heard of anyone anywhere ever having a good time on things like that . If you feel qualifyed to dispute what he said do it yourself and film it as a warning to other fools .
 
A friend of mine during highschool was reduced to messing with Jimsonweed because his very straight Christian parents frequently grounded him to keep him from drinking or smoking weed. It backfired on them in a big way, he's now 50 years old and still living with them because he can't function on his own. I went to see him the day after I came home from the Navy, he was distant, distracted, and somewhat hostile. I never saw him again, not that it would have mattered. Datura is dangerous, and only fools mess with it.
 
I don't wanna try this anymore :(
 
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