DMT Trip - Emotions?

[IJesusChrist]

With psilocybin I feel alot more than anything, happy, sad, thinking like crazy.

I did ayahuasca but I believe I made very very weak aya, the most I got was spinning on a plate in outer space (alot less dramatic then it sounds) and some intense tracers, and at one point I even saw my skeleton- but still not "geometrical lattices".

So in question still - is dmt (smoked) very emotionally/thought intensive? or is it more of hallucinations, and just odd thoughs...

Do deep insights come on DMT, like that of acid or psilocybin? I didn't have many on aya - I felt the earth breathe...

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Depends what you mean with deep insights. You definitely get a lot of deep in-sights, but it all goes way too fast to have the type of philosophical musing (in words) like you may have on mushrooms. During the milder part of the DMT flash (the end, or if you simply don't inhale enough) you may have interesting thoughts about your life, your responsibilities, your family, partner etc. But the peak is just too overwhelming. I think it's best to just go with the experience without trying to interpret it too much.

 

[Brugmansia]

The speed is so fast and the effect is so strong that there's no other choice than being obedient to it. And if you're having a half shot, the possibility to get into deep thoughts is there but it's too short. You better smoke lots of weed instead then.

Ayahuasca may provide you much more time and space to think every incoming thought through.

 

[mysticwarrior]

The speed is so fast and the effect is so strong that there's no other choice than being obedient to it. And if you're having a half shot, the possibility to get into deep thoughts is there but it's too short. You better smoke lots of weed instead then.

Sounds a little scary. Last week i've tried DMT, sadly enough something did go wrong. I had for a view seconds some visuals, but then it already faded away. I wanted to try it the next day again, but somehow i was little to scared and had not the right set. So i think this week i am going to give it another try. I hope the DMT will not crush me

 

[Jahvisions]

I like Shulgin's description.

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_onl ... al06.shtml

(with 100 mg, smoked) "As I exhaled I became terribly afraid, my heart very rapid and strong, palms sweating. A terrible sense of dread and doom filled me -- I knew what was happening, I knew I couldn't stop it, but it was so devastating; I was being destroyed -- all that was familiar, all reference points, all identity -- all viciously shattered in a few seconds. I couldn't even mourn the loss -- there was no one left to do the mourning. Up, up, out, out, eyes closed, I am at the speed of light, expanding, expanding, expanding, faster and faster until I have become so large that I no longer exist -- my speed is so great that everything has come to a stop -- here I gaze upon the entire universe."

 

[mysticwarrior]

Are you try to scare me?

 

[IJesusChrist]

Cool.

I'll try DMT then.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

I dunno about you all, but when I had acess to DMT I could puff and puff slowly vaporising and maintain a mushroom level trip for an hour or so, didn't seem to build much resistance at all ! Definately insightful !

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Bufotenine freebase that was well prepared (crystalline) might be what you are looking for... it lasts more like 2-3 hours than 10 minutes, and you can control the trip by smoking more or less. Careful not to dose all at once tho or you will feel side effects like tight chest and sweats.

 

[HeartCore]

I hope the DMT will not crush me

It will, but the moment you realize it does, you don't really care anymore.

 

[Yatenkaiohu]

I dunno about you all, but when I had acess to DMT I could puff and puff slowly vaporising and maintain a mushroom level trip for an hour or so, didn't seem to build much resistance at all ! Definately insightful !

Say what? I was under the impression one builds a tolerance to DMT quickly and it doesn't disappear until a few hours later? Mushroom level trip? I don't understand what that means !

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Me too... I wonder still, but for me I used to be able to stay high for an hour or two like this ! My extract wasn't really pure enough to get the one hit wonder, and I'm not into abuse of good things anyways... maybe thats why !

What I mean is that it felt like magic mushrooms, maybe like half a gram of a potent strain, spread over 2 hours.

 

[PsycheSmirk]

If what you're asking is like... does DMT make you think strange thoughts like if you're really really high, and you're thinking all these things that you don't normally thing and you finally catch yourself and go, "What the HELL am I thinking?" then I don't think so. According to Terence McKenna (in one of his speeches, I'm not sure which one, but it can be found on YouTube), it doesn't alter your mind to where you can't control your thoughts. So to me it sounds like it's basically just like you literally traveled to another place in the universe or another dimension, in the same way you would travel say, across the country.
I don't know, I understand what he is trying to say but it seems to be difficult for me to put into words somehow.



But hey I wouldn't know anything about a DMT trip, so I could be wrong about Terence's interpretation.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Thats a good interpretation , but once you're in the dome (your inner sun * time³) you are kind of at the mercy of the "entities" that have access to where you are located in meta-space. XD

I'm not putting forward that there any such thing to beleive into the trip but if you want to get there you will meet alien intelligence according to many.

So if I was you I'd do that outdoors or in front of a fire, somewhere sacred for you so you can unfold without electro-magnetic interferance.

Have a sitter, I have had to watch a guy once very high on this it was funny as he was sitting on a big pile of rocks that werent very solid so he slided alot (and kept saying he was ok, he was right he didn't even drop his pyrex bowl so used to it he was), on a canyon type step wasn't very high but he could have easily rolled off, he was already high when he came in, and got higher because he trusted me I guess, no word said, he just slid down the pile veeery slowly and his trip ended in that, about 10 minutes !

It lasts kinda long if it's not very pure you have all other kinds of alkaloids too and they're not disagreable I don't very understand the goal to reach pure crystals, kinda takes its soul away.

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yea

 

[pencapchew]

Ive done dmt 6 times in about 8months and I've never built a tolerance
sometimes if i have some left over I smoke with weed in a joint and its a pretty nice high for 20 minutes at a time, which is nice at a rave or party if yiou dont want to have a dream experience

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

What I mean is that it felt like magic mushrooms, maybe like half a gram of a potent strain, spread over 2 hours.

In February this year I decided to kind of hover around the entrance a bit, by taking a toke every half an hour, over a two hour period. Again and again I would see the spinning vortexes at the entrance, trying to study the 'state' just beneath the surface, without being overwhelmed. It didn't remind me of a mushroom trip, because there was much more fluctuation in the intensity: having extremely clear, colourful, three-dimensional vision, and then very quickly back to normal again.

 

[Brugmansia]

It kept me perfectly sane in this world that way CM, just with a buzz in the head. But when I closed the eyes I got a lot of symmetrical energy fields around me. Keeping the eyes open on any smoked DMT dose is a waste. And whatever effect you get out of it, it's spending material because it is in no way comparable with breaking through. You'll have to try breaking-through every time you smoke it in my opinion. And if you fail, enjoy the halfway trip and better luck next time. But particulary aiming for a medium dose, come on. DMT is too unique and rare to use it that way. Give that dose to someone else in that case.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Dmt too rare ?

lol... you can make a smokable gum from about any weed, it's found everywhere...

I did it, and you can get to where you want even with that impure gum that takes a few hours to make.

I don't think its a waste at all... having a too intense trip you don't even remember fully is to me, and I find interesting that open eye hallucinations, allows for very deep communication with plants and things you'd otherwise not see.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Keeping the eyes open on any smoked DMT dose is a waste.

I never did that, I always make sure the room is already dark, and then I put on my Mindfold as well. But while trying to inhale three long hits, it may be advisable to keep the eyes open between tokes, otherwise one may already feel overwhelmed by the intensity of the visions after the first inhalation.

But particulary aiming for a medium dose, come on. DMT is too unique and rare to use it that way. Give that dose to someone else in that case.

I had a rather unexpected breakthrough (after one very long, slow hit) a few weeks before that day. And it had discouraged me from having another one right away. That's why I wanted to take it easy, to go in and observe the same thing with less intensity, and to observe my own reaction to the visions. And I guess that was a good idea, because right after that I got a phone call, and three hours later my father died in my hands.

DMT is too unique and rare to use it that way. Give that dose to someone else in that case.

At the time I had about 2 and a half grams of Mimosa extract. Currently I also have a dose of pure DMT someone gave me as a gift. That will be used when I really feel ready for a breakthrough experience.

 

[Brugmansia]

I wasn't too much aware of how effective and easy extracting is. Seems like the synthetical market is not even needed if learning how to extract properly. Buying it there puts a force on me to be really economical with is since the DMT market is very minor and expensive.

But with two and half grams you've got some space for experiments. A medium experience crossed my way spontaneously by aiming for the full blown over a certain period of time. Smoking it definitely not always resulted in a teleportation if prepared with that intention, with a medium intensity as a result.

Is it always bingo with a break-through if you're aiming for it, CM?