5th gear experience

[Steve_Loveweed]

Hi there,

I just wanted to share the experience I had with 5th Gear... so here
it goes

I took 2 pills at 6:00 pm and didn't feel a thing by 9:00pm so I took a third
one. Fine. at 9:30pm I felt that I was fully awake. Could think much faster and
that the environment around me was more attractive than on a regular weekend
when I am stressed from work and tired. I felt that I was sweating a bit but
nothing major. I went to a karaoke bar to start off the night and had 2 smirnoffs.
After the second smirnoff I started heaten up a bit more and I felt that I had to
start dancing. Almost the same urge as when you're on speed although speed is more
agressive towards that.

I went to a club... and danced for 1.5 hours. Didn't feel a thing after that, wasn't
exhausted and still was thinking very clearly.
I got home at 03:00 am and wanted to go to bed. Couldn't sleep very well but eventually
felt asleep although a very light sleep. Next morning I was fully awake. No hangover
nothing.

i enjoyed this evening a lot. I have to add that I'm currently on 5-HTP combined with
St. Johns worth to get me over this depression I had for a long time since I tried out
XTC. So people be warned. XTC is bad, it depletes your serotonine neurotransmitters and
causes amnesia and depression so stay the hell away from MDMA. I have ordered more products
and I can't hardly wait to try out Kryptonite for next week.

I have to admit Smart-drugs are for sure the way to go but don't exagerate. I would even
consider saying 'Smart-drugs are better than alcohol..., they don't cause car accidents.'
(well, psychedellic stuff not being included in this statement )

Keep on partying dudes and give 5th gear a try.

 

[Praest]

Ok, about XTC/MDMA.

Yes, it does drain your serotonine neurotransmitters. But most drugs are VERY VERY personal. I've taken XTC lots of times, never ever had any problems. I feel great after taking it. I've been through a depression for a LOOOONG time, then I tried XTC and it went away. Possibly you weren't prepared enough for XTC, but it's not as bas as you describe it. Far from that bad.

 

[Steve_Loveweed]

Hi there,

Well, it seems you've probably took good pills anyway, the facts are that XTC is damaging the serotonine neurotransmitter to a state in which it may never 'heal'. Facts
show also that the serotonine neurotransmitter overtime may absorb dopamine and that's extremely bad since it's not 'built' for this.
In any case, I felt good too but I read about it and it has awakend me. I also suffered memory-loss and had trouble concentrating while doing my daily work. It took six months
to get rid of these side effects and I only took 10 to 15 pills
over a period of 1 year.

As you say, drugs are very personal things and for some it
can cause trouble others don't seem to be affected by the
side-effects of it. All I want to say is ... be carefull and know
what you swallow.

Have a good one.

 

[little_girly]

Hey

I do pills(xtc) every weekend and I do a good few.I'm a final year college syudent who has never failed a year and I have absolutely no problems with depression etc.I'm a very energetic person during the week too.

I do know lots of people who have bad come-downs and who get narky after pills but as somebody said, it depends on the person!You can have good or bad trips on anything.DOn't knock what you don't know but don't take anyones word for it either.

 

[kykeon]

Hello psychonauts...

I feel the need to set things straight.

We cant talk about XTC pills, for we dont know the exact
amount of MDMA that it is contained on each kind of pill,
and we also dont know what other sh** is inside. So talking
about XTC pills lead us to nowhere. One took a pill and he
went to bed and someone else was high all night. Was it the
same pill??? So we cant say XTC pills are "such" or "so".
Anyway, I am against silly pills...

...but I feel better for MDMA, although it has bad effect on
me a week after... weird... Pure on your nostrils or inside a
capsule [works differently]. We already know that it
is "burning" serotonine in the brain, hence all the good
feelings. If you overdo it, then the mdma ends all serotonine,
so it has to "burn" something else - dopamine.

The problem is that dopamine "burning" is 100%
NEUROTOXIC. That is why if you do MDMA for long period of
time and especially often, before your body creates enough
serotonine, you start having bad side effects and eventually
you will be braindead.

So, what can you do? Apart from not using mdma at all,
which is the safest method , you can do it less often,
offering yourself enough valuabe time for producing new
serotonine [which is a very very slow process]. Serotonin
brain cells produce serotonin when an amino acid called
5-Hydroxy-Tryptophan (5-htp) enters the cell and comes into
contact with an enzyme called decarboxylese which is
usually in excess in your body. But the amount of 5-htp you
have can vary depending on your diet. Hopefully you can
also buy food-supplements from health stores [its 100%
legal] 5-htp in capsules and hence help yourself reconstruct.
WARNING: do not use 5-htp capsules so as to produce new
serotonine while on mdma, because this will temporarily
boost your experience but it will probably do harm in your
brain and for sure it will have very bad after-effects.

Another solution, which looks like weird, may be the use of
Prozac. Yeap. After a night of mdma overdose, you can take
one Prozac pill. The problem is that you will end probably like
a plant for the rest of the day - but it works. The reason is
that mdma likes to burn Prozac, more than anything else
[it "fits" perfectly well on the reuptake transporters on your
brain]. And the "burning" of Prozac is not toxic. The above
has been proven on animals, which were saved by the use
of Prozac after mdma, but at the moment, there are no
experiments on human beings. Note that I have never ever
tried that & I am not saying that you should. Its more than
information we should all know. After all, knowledge is the
most powerful weapon we do have...

I hope i havent make you feel tired with my bad english...

Kykeon
Athens, Greece

 

[Steve_Loveweed]

Hi Kykeon,

I can see you are well aware of the XTC subject. I wish their would be more people like you knowing what and how about these things.

as I forthmentioned, I experienced serious depressions and personality changes and it lasted for a long time. for all other people using XTC on a regular basis, I know as you know, it's a wonderful feeling and I often have the urge to feel it again but i have to keep my head clear on this one. XTC is dangerous, probably not so because of the MDMA but because of the other stuff that is mixed with it. And yes, dopamine is extremely toxic in the brain with the serotonine neurotransmitters take on this substance instead of serotonine for which they were 'built'.

 

[kykeon]

Well, Steve...

i think that the main problem is the fact that 'drugs' in general
are illegal. And although I am shouting to let them ALL free
sometimes I feel that humans arent ready for them.

In the past, psychoactive substances were used ONLY
for spiritual purposes; but we do have a historic incident
in ancient athens [greece] where a rich man paid someone
at the temple of Eleusis to take some portion of Kykeon, the
well known LSD-like drink. How did he use it? To treat his
guests on a party, along with wine, fruits and women.

So, I suppose that humans feel the need to party [in the way
of being jerks, doing foolish things without any respect]
and in coordination with the illegal status of psychoactive
substances, urges the human creation of special drugs
that have no deep meaning for us but only for entertainment.

MDMA isnt so; XTC is.
MDMA is purely an empathogenetic compound and if used
correctly can even help people who have suicidal tendencies.
XTC, with the low dose of MDMA and those 'other' add-ons,
limits the empathogenesis to a high feeling of loving anyone
in the same party with no deep reasoning.

And as i have already written in my website [which is still
under construction], pencils arent the ones to blame if we
put them on our eyes and become blind. We have to learn
how to use them correctly.

High and frequent doses of ANYTHING, from LSD to MEAT,
cant be healthy. Both in terms of physical and in mental
conditions. LSD for instance causes no harmful effects
on humans [example: Albert Hofmann was sharp and vivid
in spite of his very old age] but if someone trips every single
day, there will be such an alteration of his personality that
can only be named as harm [example: Syd Barrett from
Pink Floyd - alive and away!]

I wish we could all understand that we HAVE to be at least
one time psychonauts, but also to realise that there is
absolutely no need to burn ourselves to nothing and for
nothing...

kykeon
athens, greece

ps that doesnt mean that i am different from other people;
I may also take an xtc pill on a party although i avoid it. But
its difficult not to be a human with flesh...