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world's largest particle collider passes first key tests

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Saw this when I opened up my browser, thought it was pretty cool.
GENEVA - The world's largest particle collider passed its first major tests by firing two beams of protons in opposite directions around a 17-mile (27-kilometer) underground ring Wednesday in what scientists hope is the next great step to understanding the makeup of the universe.

After a series of trial runs, two white dots flashed on a computer screen at 10:26 a.m. (0826 GMT) indicating that the protons had traveled clockwise along the full length of the 4 billion Swiss franc (US$3.8 billion) Large Hadron Collider — described as the biggest physics experiment in history.

"There it is," project leader Lyn Evans said when the beam completed its lap.

Champagne corks popped in labs as far away as Chicago, where contributing and competing scientists watched the proceedings by satellite.

Five hours later, scientists successfully fired a beam counterclockwise.

Physicists around the world now have much greater power to smash the components of atoms together in attempts to learn about their structure.

"Well done, everybody," said Robert Aymar, director-general of the European Organization for Nuclear Research, to cheers from the assembled scientists in the collider's control room at the Swiss-French border.

The organization, known by its French acronym CERN, began firing the protons — a type of subatomic particle — around the tunnel in stages less than an hour earlier, with the first beam injection at 9:35 a.m. (0735 GMT).

Eventually two beams will be fired at the same time in opposite directions with the aim of recreating conditions a split second after the big bang, which scientists theorize was the massive explosion that created the universe.

"My first thought was relief," said Evans, who has been working on the project since its inception in 1984. "This is a machine of enormous complexity. Things can go wrong at any time. But this morning has been a great start."

He didn't want to set a date, but said that he expected scientists would be able to conduct collisions for their experiments "within a few months."

The collider is designed to push the proton beam close to the speed of light, whizzing 11,000 times a second around the tunnel.

Scientists hope to eventually send two beams of protons through two tubes about the width of fire hoses, speeding through a vacuum that is colder and emptier than outer space. The paths of these beams will cross, and a few protons will collide. The collider's two largest detectors — essentially huge digital cameras weighing thousands of tons — are capable of taking millions of snapshots a second.

The CERN experiments could reveal more about "dark matter," antimatter and possibly hidden dimensions of space and time. It could also find evidence of the hypothetical particle — the Higgs boson — which is sometimes called the "God particle" because it is believed to give mass to all other particles, and thus to matter that makes up the universe.

The supercooled magnets that guide the proton beam heated slightly in the morning's first test, leading to a pause to recool them before trying the opposite direction.

The start of the collider came over the objections of some who feared the collision of protons could eventually imperil the Earth by creating micro-black holes, subatomic versions of collapsed stars whose gravity is so strong they can suck in planets and other stars.

"It's nonsense," said James Gillies, chief spokesman for CERN.

CERN was backed by leading scientists like Britain's Stephen Hawking , who declared the experiments to be absolutely safe.

Gillies told the AP that the most dangerous thing that could happen would be if a beam at full power were to go out of control, and that would only damage the accelerator itself and burrow into the rock around the tunnel.

Nothing of the sort occurred Wednesday, though the accelerator is still probably a year away from full power.

The project organized by the 20 European member nations of CERN has attracted researchers from 80 nations. Some 1,200 are from the United States, an observer country that contributed US$531 million. Japan, another observer, also is a major contributor.

Some scientists have been waiting for 20 years to use the LHC.

The complexity of manufacturing it required groundbreaking advances in the use of supercooled, superconducting equipment. The 2001 start and 2005 completion dates were pushed back by two years each, and the cost of the construction was 25 percent higher than originally budgeted in 1996, Luciano Maiani, who was CERN director-general at the time, told The Associated Press.

Maiani and the other three living former directors-general attended the launch Wednesday.

Smaller colliders have been used for decades to study the makeup of the atom. Less than 100 years ago scientists thought protons and neutrons were the smallest components of an atom's nucleus, but in stages since then experiments have shown they were made of still smaller quarks and gluons and that there were other forces and particles.

The original article is here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_on_sc/big_bang

Hope you guys thought this was as cool as me. :p
 

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Very cool :D
 

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Well, this would be an interesting death, that's for sure.
 

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Yup. I just talked to my Physics TA and he said microscopic black holes only can exist for something like 1/10 of a second. He also said that the black holes that could be created by the collisions of particles are only microscopic so we have nothing to really worry about.
 

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Haha now we know what's gonna happen in 2012! :lol:
 

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CNN just said that it wont be doing big jobs untill they finish testing it next year .
 

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It would be a great death, our bodies would be frozen in time for decades, and meanwhile, we would have all the time to slowly and painfully see the truh. It could kill us all.
 

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falling into a black hole takes for ever.
we would never touch it.
 

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"our bodies would be frozen in time for decades," - "falling into a black hole takes for ever. we would never touch it."


Explain please ?
 

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black holes slowing time down... remember ??
 

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Explain please ?
 

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lol good one


however entering a black hole would, yes slow us down, but it would "kill" us first by stopping time (i would say it is a kind of death) and then by compacting us in the smallest unit of space possible for all this energy that makes up us and our planet...

yes microscopic black holes can't exist with so much mass surrounding them

EDIT we have been destroyed, we just haven't aknowledged it yet so we actually BELIEVE we are still here while we aren't and we keep living our lives just for kicks...(it's a joke)
 

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The Large Hadron Collider has recently been the target of a hacker attack, which raised serious concerns about the security capabilities of world's biggest experiment.

So, yes, LHC is in the spotlight again. It seems that the public hysteria caused by the hypothetical idea that LHC could trigger the formation of black holes, tsunami waves and powerful earthquakes led to researchers at CERN receiving a huge number of worrisome telephone calls and e-mail threats. However, fear is not the only incentive for this anti-LHC revolt. The enormous technological facility also seems to be seen as a challenge for computer hackers, who want to measure their abilities against those of the LHC staff.

While the Geneva scientists were undergoing the particle beam circulation test, a page from a Greek hacking group was suddenly displayed on one of their monitors. It was headlined GST: Greek Security Team,and signed We are 2600 - dont mess with us [sic].Following this incident, the website in question, cmsmon.cern.ch, has become restricted to the public.

The LHC staff is disappointed and worried about the fate of the experiment and that of the enormous and expensive device (12.500 tons, 21 m long and 15 m wide/high). It is hard enough to make these things work if no one is messing with it,one of them said. Luckily, attackers couldn't breach the second computer network from where parts of the machine can be switched off. Only a file from the Compact Muon Solenoid (CMS) Experiment one of the four monitoring devices of the facility was damaged.

James Gillies, spokesman for CERN stated that There seems to be no harm done. From what they can tell, it was someone making the point that CMS was hackable. It was quickly detected.And then, referring to the security issue, he added, We have several levels of network, a general access network and a much tighter network for sensitive things that operate the LHC.According to Gillies, out of the 1.4 million e-mails received by their site in a day, 90% is spam. CERN uses over 110 different systems of control for their defense-in-depth approach, with separated control networks, complex firewalls and complicated passwords.

And, as if outside troubles weren't enough for the LHC, one of the scientists shocked the world's already discontented population by misquoting and wrongly attributing the tagline of "Star Trek" (Where no man has gone before). Michael Zeller, a physics professor at Yale working at the LHC reportedly puzzled everyone with his funny-wannabe comparison, What did they say in ‘Star Wars’? We’re going where no man has ever been? Well, that’s where we’re going.
 

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