Psychic vampirism

[Bastiaan]

What springs to mind when you read this title? There's a lot of far out things written on the subject by occult fantasists but it seems to me that there is something more to this. Something real and of importance. Any information would be greatly appreciated as I feel my energy is continually being and has been sucked to the bone for a prolonged time by someone very close to me. And this is not some kind of excuse that I make up for not being able to be who I want to be or achieve what I want to achieve. I take responsibility for my own life. Your views on this? Any experiences?

 

[Guest]

If I may quote myself from a recent topic, there's an interesting read :

If I may quote the following from a book I find interesting .

I've edited the text a lil' bit and intentionally omitted the source (although it is an easy find with Google) as the book it comes from could be considered as controversial, to say the least.

I suggest you simply read this extract before anything else and then make your own opinion

Not All Vampires Suck Blood

Humanism represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires.

Many people who walk the earth practice the fine art of making others feel responsible and even indebted to them, without cause. Humanism observes these leeches in their true light. Psychic vampires are individuals who drain others of their vital energy. This type of person can be found in all avenues of society. They fill no useful purpose in our lives, and are neither love objects nor true friends. Yet we feel responsible to the psychic vampire without knowing why.

If you think you may be the victim of such a person, there are a few simple rules which will help you form a decision. Is there a person you often call or visit, even though you really don't want to, because you know you will feel guilty if you don't? Or, do you find yourself constantly doing favors for one who doesn't come forward and ask, but hints? Often the psychic vampire will use reverse psychology, saying: "Oh, I couldn't ask you to do that" - and you, in turn, insist upon doing it. The psychic vampire never demands anything of you. That would be far too presumptuous. They simply let their wishes be known in subtle ways which will prevent them from being considered pests. They "wouldn't think of imposing" and are always content and willingly accept their lot, without the slightest complaint - outwardly!

Their sins are not of commission, but of omission. It's what they don't say, not what they do say, that makes you feel you must account to them. They are much too crafty to make overt demands upon you, because they know you would resent it, and would have a tangible and legitimate reason for denying them.

A large percentage of these people have special "attributes" which make their dependence upon you more feasible and much more effective. Many psychic vampires are invalids (or pretend to be) or are "mentally or emotionally disturbed." Others might feign ignorance or incompetence so you will, out of pity - or more often, exasperation - do things for them.

(...)

Most people accept these passively vicious individuals at face value only because their insidious maneuvers have never been pointed out to them. They merely accept these "poor souls" as being less fortunate than themselves, and feel they must help them however they can. It is this misdirected sense of responsibility (or unfounded sense of guilt) which nourishes well the "altruisms" upon which these parasites feast!

The psychic vampire is allowed to exist because he cleverly chooses conscientious, responsible people for his victims - people with great dedication to their "moral obligations."

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There are, of course, people who are not happy unless they are giving, but many of us do not fit into this category. Unfortunately, we are often put upon to do things we do not genuinely feel should be required of us. A conscientious person finds it very difficult to decide between voluntary and imposed charity. He wants to do what is right and just, and finds it perplexing trying to decide exactly who he should help and what degree of aid should rightfully be expected of him.

Each person must decide for himself what his obligations are to his respective friends, family, and community. Before donating his time and money to those outside his immediate family and close circle of friends, he must decide what he can afford, without depriving those closest to him. When taking these things into consideration he must be certain to include himself among those who mean most to him. He must carefully evaluate the validity of the request and the personality or motives of the person asking it of him.

It is extremely difficult for a person to learn to say "no" when all his life he has said "yes." But unless he wants to be constantly taken advantage of, he must learn to say "no" when circumstances justify doing so. If you allow them, psychic vampires will gradually infiltrate your everyday life until you have no privacy left - and your constant feeling of concern for them will deplete you of all ambition.

A psychic vampire will always select a person who is relatively content and satisfied with his life - a person who is happily married, pleased with his job, and generally well-adjusted to the world around him - to feed upon. The very fact that the psychic vampire chooses to victimize a happy person shows that he is lacking all the things his victim has; he will do everything he can to stir up trouble and disharmony between his victim and those people he holds dear.

Therefore, be wary of anyone who seems to have no real friends and no appearant interest in life (except you). He will usually tell you he is very selective in his choice of friends, or doesn't make friends easily because of the high standards he sets for his companions. (To acquire and keep friends, one must be willing to give of himself - something of which the psychic vampire is incapable.) But he will hasten to add that you fulfill every requirement and are truly an outstanding exception among men - you are one of the very few worthy of his friendship.

Lest you confuse desperate love (which is a very selfish thing) with psychic vampirism, the vast difference between the two must be clarified. The only way to determine if you are being vampirized is to weigh what you give the person compared to what they give you in return.

You may, at times, become annoyed with the obligations put upon you by a loved one, a close friend, or even an employer. But before you label them psychic vampires, you must ask yourself, "What am I getting in return?" If your spouse or lover insists that you call them frequently, but you also require them to account to you for their time spent away from you, you must realize this is a give and take situation. Or, if a friend is in the habit of calling upon you for help at inopportune moments, but you similarly depend upon them to give your immediate needs priority, you must regard it as a fair exchange. If your employer asks you to do a little more than is normally expected of you in your particular position, but will overlook occasional tardiness or will give you time off when you need it, you certainly have no cause for complaint and need not feel he is taking advantage of you.

You are, however, being vampirized if you are incessantly called upon or expected to do favors for someone who, when you need a favor, always happens to have other "pressing obligations."

Many psychic vampires will give you material things for the express purpose of making you feel you owe them something in return, thereby binding you to them. The difference between your giving, and theirs, is that your return payment must come in a non-material form. They want you to feel obligated to them, and would be very disappointed and even resentful if you attempted to repay them with materal objects. In essence, you have "sold your soul" to them, and they'll constantly remind you of your duty to them, by not reminding you.

Being purely humanist, the only way to deal with a psychic vampire is to "play dumb" and act as though they are genuinely altruistic and really expect nothing in return. Teach them a lesson by graciously taking what they give you, thanking them loudly enough for all to hear, and walking away! In this way you come out the victor. What can they say? And when you are inevitably expected to repay their "generosity," (this is the hard part!) you say "NO" - but again, graciously! When they feel you falling from their clutches two things will happen. First, they will act "crushed," hoping your old feeling of duty and sympathy will return, and when (and if) it doesn't, they will show their true colors and will become angry and vindictive.

Once you have moved them to this point, YOU can play the role of the injured party. After all, you've done nothing wrong - you just happened to have had "pressing obligations" when they needed you, and since nothing was expected in return for their gifts, there should be no hard feelings.

Generally, the psychic vampire will realize his methods have been discovered and will not press the issue. He will not continue to waste his time with you, but will move on to his next unsuspecting victim.

There are times, however, when the psychic vampire will not release his hold so easily, and will do everything possible to torment you. They have plenty of time for this because, when once rejected, they wil neglect all else (what little else they have, that is) to devote their every waking moment to planning the revenge to which they feel they are entitled. For this reason, it is best to avoid a relationship with this kind of person in the first place. Their "adulation" and dependence upon you may, at first, be very flattering, and their material gifts very attractive, but you will eventually find yourself paying for them many times over.

Don't waste your time with people who will ultimately destroy you, but concentrate instead on those who will appreciate your responsibility to them, and, likewise, feel responsible to you.

Maybe this offered some insight

 

[Bastiaan]

Thanks Tiax. I had read that one already though. I'm searching and reading everything I can find on the subject. What I am most interested in is what causes a person to engage in such behaviour (especially when draining energy from someone that is not volunteering, though I could not imagine anyone doing this, i.e. energy raping). Michael Tsarion (http://psychicvampirism.com) up until now has provided me the most spot on information and that which I have found most useful. He mentions a primal wound after which the individual has stopped feeling alltogether to be the cause of the pv's need to drain others' energy. Other scources mention a genetic disposition that cause the individual to not be able to create or store their own, but I feel the first to make more sense to me as I know this person very up close and this is quite likely the case. Two more questions that I have are whither it's possible this person is fully consciouss of what he/she is doing and last but not least, wither or not a person can be helped/cured, enabling them to live from their own energy and stop draining that of others.
Greets

 

[IJesusChrist]

wellp.

my buddy, well... i wish he wasn't. I Wish he'd just go away, is one of these, however much validity the name actually carries.

His problem is that he is very HEAVILY and EASILY influenced by others. He hangs around other people because he cannot make himself happy, and if he is happy, he will call one of us in order to stay happy. If he's down, I don't talk to him, at all, I question every intention he has and push him greatly to now pull me down as well - this usually results in him leaving fairly quickly. However, when he seems to be in a normal mood, I find it very easy to elevate him. It's almost like winding up a little toy, you can get him very pumped up very quickly, and then he slowly works his way back to baseline, and comes back for more.

With my experience, the guy has no ambitions for life. He's in college with me, and tells me straight up that he doesn't want to learn anything, everything he has learned is useless, and he just wants money and 'bitches' to want his money.

He doesn't care about relationships - he says he can't connect with women like that, and he likes it better that way, rather than having to love somebody.

He psychologically segregates himself from "smart" people because they think differently from him. He doesn't like to challenge his own thinking, or any one elses for that matter.

I can't say that my other friend, who at first glance seems like this, is actually like this - I think he's just socially inept. Why do I get friends like this damnit?!

Both are very similar people however, they are somewhat odd in social settings, often awkward but for different reasons. They both seem to need another presense very strongly in order to be themselves. For the latter, I think he literally does need somebody, although he doesn't seem to bring me down (mostly) we bring each other up. The friend in college, you have to only be talking about what he finds interesting, or his wants and needs, otherwise he says "lets stop talking about this".

To be honest, I just avoid the bad one, and I don't live near the first one anymore. You shouldn't surround yourself with people like that. And even more honest: I think it's genetic - they aren't going to change, it is who they are. People don't change dramatically like that, as sad as that is to say. :?

 

[BrainEater]

change your blindness. you can't be aware of everything. learn to trust your inner feeling. trust it and protect your energy (not sure what's the best way of saying that) from subconscious or unconscious processes that might be giving away your energy to psychic vampires or other strange stupid phenomena. don't think how to exploit the energy from the psychic vampires, but try to not engage with their energy at all. not totally sure about that... think about it for yourself. i think what they actually do is to direct the attention on them in a disgusting way and that's why it's actually really simple to "kill them" so to say, by really focussing on yourself... it seems to me that people who are attacked by psychic vampires often breathe very wrong....


learn from mistakes and shield yourself if you suspect to have the necessicity to do that. fear is not a good path at all.... but stupidity isn't either. it should be logical that therefore stupid fears are mostly not good also...


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peace :weedman:

 

[IJesusChrist]

I don't know if I'm blind, but Im certainly not delusional

 

[Bastiaan]

Thanks folks I am doing better atm. For now I have shielded myself from it. I still want to know more about the subject though.

 

[IJesusChrist]

do you know if the person is religious?