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BridgeUnder

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Aaargh!! Again I tried to have a nice mellow trip and again I failed because apparently the dose was too low (14 grams of frozen shroom tea).
Before, I tried 15 grams but now I had abstained from taken any medication for almost 2 weeks (an antipsychotic).

Should I just be a man :) and go for 30 grams the next time? These failed attempts are becoming a waste of time, effort and money ...
 

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BridgeUnder a dit:
Aaargh!! Again I tried to have a nice mellow trip and again I failed because apparently the dose was too low (14 grams of frozen shroom tea).
Before, I tried 15 grams but now I had abstained from taken any medication for almost 2 weeks (an antipsychotic).

Should I just be a man :) and go for 30 grams the next time? These failed attempts are becoming a waste of time, effort and money ...
Well if you suffer from psychosis I'd think it crazy to advise you more shrooms, so please be VERY careful. That put aside, I myself didn't notice alot from like 10-15 g's so I'm gonna hit it up full with 30 gs next time. Take care though, if you're taking anti psychotics.
 

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u say, frozen mushroom tea ??
is it just me or are you NOT supposed to freeze them ??
I believe it destroy the working alkaloids, making it logical ur not noticing anything
 

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Naw, freezin' 'em just makes them turn black and disgusting. Several friends tripped off of some I had in the freezer for over a month.

30g fresh isn't a lot, sounds like you just have some weak shroomies.
 

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BridgeUnder a dit:
Aaargh!! Again I tried to have a nice mellow trip and again I failed because apparently the dose was too low (14 grams of frozen shroom tea).
Before, I tried 15 grams but now I had abstained from taken any medication for almost 2 weeks (an antipsychotic).

Should I just be a man :) and go for 30 grams the next time? These failed attempts are becoming a waste of time, effort and money ...
You should be wise and ask yourself if is smart to take mushrooms while you're evidently on antipsychotic medication! Taking shrooms is quite safe for healthy individuals, but in your case I would ask myself whether it is a good idea or not. I am not a doctor, but think about your (mental) health before you do so. Not counting the fact that you abstained from your medication...

Edit: I'm sorry for this moralistic message, but the last thing the psychonaut community needs is media coverage of another stupid action by someone who didn't know the small, but specific dangers of shrooming. Here in Holland, a french girl commited suicide while shrooming last week, causing a parilamentary debate on prohibiting fresh shrooms.
 

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Brewmaster a dit:
Naw, freezin' 'em just makes them turn black and disgusting. Several friends tripped off of some I had in the freezer for over a !month.!

they tripped for a month long on those mushies ? ?:D
 

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Well I'm not psychotic nor have I ever been like this. I was given these medications for my social anxiety and my depressions, but since I'm way better now, I didn't see any point in continuing to take my pills so I quit. 2 weeks without them now, and I don't feel bad at all.
I just thought one could get some very noticable results from 15 grams fresh, guess I was wrong.
And yes unfrozen shroom tea is disgusting, almost puked it out again. :) The liquid is ok but the gobs of slime ... yuck!
 

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The whole point of making "tea" is not having to eat the shrooms.

You filter them out before you drink it.
 

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Is tea stronger than eating the shrooms? Cause I really don't mind eating the shrooms, it doesn't taste too bad, but if I can get better effect with tea then I would like to know about this method...
 
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Is tea stronger than eating the shrooms? Cause I really don't mind eating the shrooms, it doesn't taste too bad, but if I can get better effect with tea then I would like to know about this method...

Well last time I made tea out of 90 grams and it does tend to come on stronger, but the potency of the shrooms isn't gonna change (unless you boil too hot water over the shrooms)
 

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90 grams? You're starting to sound like Mr. Heart.
50 is my limit and I'm pretty sure I was only able to handle that because I was already tripping on mescaline.

But yes, tea will hit you much faster. Especially if you throw in a good amount of lemon juice and perhaps 2 or three grams of rue.
 

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Brewmaster a dit:
90 grams? You're starting to sound like Mr. Heart.
lol I read this and immediately had to listen to The Prodigy's "Out Of Space".



Brewmaster a dit:
The whole point of making "tea" is not having to eat the shrooms.
You filter them out before you drink it.

I always thought it'd lessen the effects, even by a small margin.
I do like fresh shroom tea though, it's better than normal tea. :) And ofcourse I'm a big "regular" mushroom lover also.
 

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If you make shroom tea, drink the tea then eat the shrooms, could that increase the effects?
 

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Psychoid a dit:
If you make shroom tea, drink the tea then eat the shrooms, could that increase the effects?

The thing is with 90 g of mushies, it's alot easier to drink just the tea, and filter the shrooms (better for the stomach). And I don't think the effect is that much different.
 

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Did you have an empty stomach when you had the tea? I think that is very important.
 

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For me, I hadn't eaten NOR drank anything (not even water) for the last 16 hours, I like my body to be clean before shroom ingestion.

Soooo, should I go for 30 right away the next time or go thru 20->25 first?
 

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You must be honest with yourself and know that you are playing with fire . If you want to do it , do it , but be carefull . The least you should do if you suffer from social anxiety and depressions , is make sure you have a sitter and have a few valium in the near . I know people with a psychosis and people with the same symptoms as you who take trips and are O.K. Its individual , if you have a strong personality it could be O.K. , if not it could fuck you up permanently . When i feel uncomfortable i clear my brain by repeating the mantra - LOVE , LIGHT AND HEALING . Over and over again , wich always works .
A good rule is it does not matter what happens just LAUGH . You dont need to stop drinking before a trip , 16 hours without water is to long . Drinking water is good just dont eat for 4 hours before .


LOVE GOD
 

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I can't say I have a strong personality, I get influenced easily which could make me feel good or bad pretty easily. BUT I have to say that whenever I take shrooms I can get myself to feel very happy, almost euforic. And I prepare myself by watching comic shows beforehand (I'm normally a horror movie freak).

BUT sometimes I feel afraid without any reason whatsoever ... feeling of impending doom kinda stuff.

Treading carefully seems to be my game of life grrrr frustrating. :?
 

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I spent all night thinking about you . Worrying . After what you have written here EVERYONE , INCLUDING ME......AND ESPECIALY THE MODERATOR ... should have told you not to do it . We are legaly and moraly responsible for each other and if we have learned anything at all from psychoactive substances we should take each other seriously and be consequent . We should have told you to go back to your doctor and talk to him . Neurologists are everyones friend . If you cant talk to yours about drugs without him being negative , get another one . These people are specialists in the way we think and make decisions . Psilocybin can be dangerous for people with social anxiety , depressions , panic attacks and/or "platzangst" ( sorry i forgot the english word (?) for that ) , it can make people feel very insecure . After reading what you have said in your last post , it sounds like you are honest with yourself ? All people have feelings and thoughts like you have talked about sometimes in their lives . They are just to frightened to talk about it in public or even admit it to themselves . Its a bit like having a wart ( warzen ? ) . if you accept it honestly , see it as something normal , there is a good chance that it will , in time , go away on its own . Or you have to learn to live with it . Fear is not bad , without it humanity would not be able to survive , see it as being your friend and helper , a good advisor . At the moment on our dying planet a "feeling of impending doom kinda stuff." is a healthy sign . Accept yourself , love yourself , be honest and consequent .

It would be better if you knew exactly how strong your mushroom tea is before doing experements . You need to know exactly what weight and what type of mushrooms are in a tea to be able to dose it correctly . If you dont know that , it would be better to throw it away and start again . You also need to be clear about what medication the doctor has given you . Some medicins/antipsychotica take a long time to get out of ones system = you might not be getting effects from your tea because the medicine is blocking it , making correct dosing an imposibility for MONTHS to come .

It would be better for you if you stop watching horror movies . You need a stabil mental frame work , a clear view of reality , wich is virtualy imposible if you spend time watching such negative fantasy films . You should not be playing with your own fears , wich is the kick people get watching horror films . If you need an extra kick go bungee jumping .

I hope that helps you .

LOVE GOD
 
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