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Ahuaeynjxs

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Agreed, we have just dreamed a way to be special , and we manifest it inside a matrix thats meant to fall back to ashes.

8)
 

GOD

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The planet needs apes more than it needs humans .
 

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I want to say both yes and no because evolution has created each species to be good at a specific existence. for example, apes have far superior short-term memory to us because it suits there lifestyle better.
However I must say that humans are 'special' because of our ability to question our existance rather than just further it.
Perhaps it's because of our sapience, sentience or metacognition.
 

misfit

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Hide in your shell - Supertramp

"Hide in your shell cos the world is out to bleed you for a ride
What will you gain making your life a little longer?
Heaven or hell, was the journey cold that gave your eyes of steel?
Shelter behind painting your mind and playing joker

Too frightening to listen to a stranger
Too beautiful to put your pride in danger
Youre waiting for someone to understand you
But youve got demons in your closet
And youre screaming out to stop it
Saying lifes begun to cheat you
Friends are out to beat you
Grab on to what you scramble for

Dont let the tears linger on inside now
Cos its sure time you gained control
If I can help you, if I can help you
If I can help you, just let me know
Well, let me show you the nearest signpost
To get your heartback and on the road
If I can help you, if I can help you
If I can help you, just let me know.

All through the night as you like awake and hold yourself so tight
What do you need, a second-hand-movie-star to tend you?
I as a boy, I believed the saying the cure for pain was love
How would it be if you could see the world through my eyes?

Too frightening- the fires getting colder
Too beautiful- to think youre getting older
Youre looking for someone to give an answer.
But what you see is just an illusion
Youre surrounded by confusion
Saying lifes begun to cheat you
Friends are out to beat you
Grab on to what you can scramble for
Dont let teh tears...
... just let me know
I wanna know...
I wanna know you...
Well let me know you
I wanna feel you
I wanna touch you
Please let me near you
Can you hear what Im saying?
Well Im hoping, Im dreamin, Im prayin
I know what youre thinkin
See what youre seein
Never ever let yourself go

Hold yourself down, hold yourself down
Why dya hold yourself down?
Why dont you listen, you can
Trust me,
Theres a place I know the way to
A place there is need to feel you
Feel that youre alone
Hear me
I know exactly what youre feelin
Cos all your troubles are whithin you
Please begin to see that Im just bleeding to
Love me, love you
Loving is the way to
Help me, help you
- why must we be so cool, oh so cool,?
Oh, were such damn fools..."
 

Ahuaeynjxs

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You gotta admit however, up to now, its done much more harm than good, we even allowed NASA to grash nuclear sattelites in alien environement we have no way of telling if there was life there.

Heck we find life in the depth of the oceans, scientists even say that the majority of the biomass of the earth is along the earth's "oceanic cracks" where there is no sun and the water is so hot it turns black.

Argument is, monkeys would know whats best for us right now, stop pumping the earth's blood (oil) and start growing hemp and live a simpler life, let her heal herself.

For all we know, whales (even if non verbal) might have metacognition also and theirs might be more important to our vessel the earth than ours, and we're poisoning them so much with mercury that they suicide.
 

Ahuaeynjxs

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You forgot to say who that was from Misfit, I assumed you wrote it ?
 

toogoodforyou

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The whole cosmos is special and we are a part of it. Existence is special. Its just that everything appears physically different. We are not the mind, not the body.... we are the consciousness
 

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if by special you mean something fishy.
I agree. It's they way people behave that fasinates me.
 

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Mr.Smith a dit:
are we special? are we different from the other 2 species of chimpanzee? forgetting our technological achievements that is

i dont think we are. i think we are just another group of chimps. its my opinion that if we accept this fact we can learn our true nature and have a deeper understanding of what it means to be human.

what do you think?
Human potential is higher than chimpanzee potential. Though many human beings behave much like monkeys, and as a collective make a mess of this planet, some develop a language, beneficial technology and holistic worldview that distinguish them from all of the lifeforms we know on Earth. There's too much diversity amongst human beings and cultures to generalize.

If the universe experiences itself through the lifeforms it creates, don't you think it's gaining a lot of interesting data from our highly developed human nervous system, especially when it ingests psychedelics and contemplates reality?
 

GOD

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"Human potential is higher than chimpanzee potential"

Says you . I say at the moment maybe , and in our terms at the moment maybe .
 

restin

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the potential is stable and is not affected by time...
 

Caduceus Mercurius

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restin a dit:
the potential is stable and is not affected by time...
I think the potential increases when the right technology and culture evolve.
 

restin

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I dunno if the word is used differently in english but the potential is what we humans could ever do and that doesn't change...
 

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If you could ask a bee about the idea of it's existance, do you think that it'll answer by saying that he's ordinary and humans are special?

Our observing consciousness makes the universe an existing place, that consciousness is what we judge and we make the judge about our consciousness with our consciousness.

It is almost absurd to belief that we earthlings are the only life in the universe. 15 billion light years further there's activity... 15000 million years travelling 300.000 kilometer each second, and that's only the outer side we can see... go figure.

Our sun has sufficient energy to burn for another 5 billion years. Yeah, 5000 million years that is.

The Dinosaurs have been here for rougly 60 million years. We humans have been here since yesterday.

Nature had demolished the entire leading world population who dominated this planet for 60 million years. Mighty organisms they were.

With the time our sun has left, the complete demolishing of a leading world population, and brand new build up of a new life form can still happen like 10 times for instance.

It is true, there's nothing romantic about it, it feels like we're dirt or we may be even saw-dust of an immense sculpture.

Indeed, Christians do have a motive to be ignorant.
 

GOD

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I think bird shit on an immense sculpture .
 

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GOD a dit:
I think bird shit on an immense sculpture .

Lol it's true this analogy seems to suit better :lol:

Are we special? Don't know... but we're different. We're strange. Look at all other life forms, then look at us...
 

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Every species is different form each other.

How we look at the sky and wonder what is beyond it, what is the meaning of it, and who we are and why we do what we do.
Now try to imagine a bee, looking at the beekeeper.

Can you see what I'm trying to say?
 
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