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This insane world...
#31
People (yes, I'm including myself and all of you here) have always been crazy. That hasn't really changed.

Was it Bill Hicks or who said this? But a good example of the craziness:
Jesus came and told us the good news: "Everything is okay!"
And what did we do?
We killed him.

That's how people are when they are not aware. We are crazy. All of us.
Here we are online blasting of caring about the nature. With our computers, smartphones and tablets, or whatever you are using to write on this board. Such a funny thing to talk about caring about the nature in a way that is actually destroying the nature. Obviously I'm not saying that people shouldn't talk about these things online, I just hope people take notice on the both sides of the way we do it.

In my opinion the craziest people are the ones who do not realize they're crazy. Like me. Most of the time I don't remember I'm crazy. That's when I tend to get stressed out about all sort of stupid things.
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#32
There is insanity but there is also plain and simple dumbness and lazyness.

You can blame the elite. But remember that the elite knows about humam nature and they give the people bread and circus, because they know how the human mind works.

Everybody hates commercials. But some people make there money in advertising. Some creative people use there creative energy to make commercials. They are just doing there jobs.
And they think that if they do not do it someone else will.
Also there are people who have a job that they do not care about or even hate.

Joseph campbell said : follow your bliss. What he meant was to follow your hearth and your dreams. Do not be like a robot (the word robot comes from thw Chech language and means slave)
Don,t go around on rhe automatic pilot.
Listen to your hearth and think about what your doing.

One of the reasons why the world is so crazy is that people don, t care. Another reason is because people are dumb don, t think and are lazy.

What we need is a new paradigm however i do not have a lot of hope for the future. I do not think people will change very soon.
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I almost forgot. Another thing that plays a big part in all this is habit and addiction.
When people have habits or addiction the behavior is ingrained in there brain (neural pathways) .

True insanity just like addiction i think is a sickness.
Psychedelics can be used recreationally but can also be used to heal. There are other ways of healing as well. What we need is the healing of humanity. But some people don, t think they are sick and do not want to be healed just like some people don, t want to learn and stay stupid. What can you do about it?
Start with the self.
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#33
be careful the myths you believe. For centuries the Church drilled the dogma into others from small to big that nature was fallen and they were born in sin

Then when Darwin arrives and tells people they come from the apes, we get told that we are naturally agressive, and only the strong survive and bla bla. get me? These myths suit the 1 percenters. As well as that you are now to believe you are a robot without free will, living in a dead nature, and your only purpose is to be a consumer-slave. They--like the Church did--drill this into us from little to big!

The whole purpose of these toxic myths are for you to internalize them, and to police others if they challenge those myths

One thing you said about adverts--how some people really want to do them. Well I can happliy live without adverts. I do not need to live in a world with ads blaring in my face from screens

Another said we are hypocritical to say we care about nature when we use a computer.
I have learnt SO much from the web. It is vital now because planet Earth is being attacked all sides. So it is very important to have access to all forms of info. That means using it in a respectufl way

I won't own a smartphone, and am glad I don't have Apple, because I recently sayw a documentary about how they treat their workers and the environment. I saw that on the TV, and then I shared about it online

Indigenous peoles use the computer and internet to keep track on the damage being down to the rainforests. if THEY find value from this technology, so can I. We need swift interconnected contact to find out what is happening and find ways for radical change
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#34
I get what you are trying to say.
Don, t get me wrong. I see what is going on. I do not claim to know the truth but i am not blind for the truth.
They get them when there young.
They indeed manipulate the young to fight there wars. There is a lot of insanity going on.
I could go on and on about it.
There is a lot of injustice.
But don, t make the mistake of thinking it is getting worse.
When you watch the news or follow media you get those hypes and news of today the top story the delusion of the day.

In history there have been times and places you would not want to live in.
I am very happy with my live at this moment because i know that there are people who do not have the luck i have. The luck of living in a very save time and place.
I feel obligated and priveledged to enjoy this live and make the best of it and share it.

Do i think people are naturally aggressive?
I don, t know.
I don, t think aggression is the point. It, s what we do with our aggression.
It is how we act. Like you said. Do we act like a insane monster or not.
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#35
The world is not very different now then in history from the insanity perspective. Before our time, world was also driven by darkest desires.. you had tyrannical leaders, greedy sociopaths, sadistic killers, and enormous mass of people enslaved and ignorant because they didn't know any better. Only real difference that all those things were localized, knowledge about other countries was kept off limits. Knowledge was power in its true form. Globalization removed information obstacles but main dark drivers of mankind didn't disappear and probably never will. And we cannot change that, we really cannot change the world. But what we can do is change things that are given to us. Make it better in small areas that we have on our hands, make ourselves better. Trying to change more than that can only bring you frustration.
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#36
I got rid of my tv and computer several years ago (obviously back online now). It was a very good experience. I got to appreciate the silence,or the sound of the wind, or some music again. I was able to do a lot of thinking that needed doing, I guess. The screens (tv and comp.) are so demanding of your attention, even when they are off! In the middle of this period, I thought I wanted to get back online so I bought a laptop. I almost couldn't sleep that night. That thing felt like a demonic presence in my house! I gave it to my son the next day. My point (AHA- he has a point) is that the worst parts of this world are forced on our consciousnesses out of proportion to their relative importance to our individual lives. Out of the whole universe, a few garish things are deemed important enough to hammer them endlessly, in all media, to where it just to seems to be in the air. We are bombarded with noise all the time. It's too easy to despair. You have to exert some effort to keep the noise at a distance. A half hour news show can't give you any kind of true picture of a world of 7 billion individuals. All that noise is is a huge distraction from my life to no purpose. As bad as things are in the US, there are many, many, many worse places to find yourself. " Party on", I say.
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#37
Citation :There is a lot of injustice.
But don, t make the mistake of thinking it is getting worse.
When you watch the news or follow media you get those hypes and news of today the top story the delusion of the day.

For who is it not worse? You may feel very comfortable in a bubble, but there is incredible injustice and suffering going on, so are you speaking for them? And what about all the species being made extinct by the ugly soulless mindset in control of this planet?

There are people in the know who will inform you things are exceptionally worse for us on planet Earth, because of all the ruthless exploitation of others, and nature.

Also things like politics. Recently there was the Paris attacks. There is substantial reasonable evidence to suggest that the Israeli Mossad were behind the attacks because France had promised support for Palestine. And then we find a pattern. Every country that has pledged support for Palestine has had something bad happen, and that includes Japan, and they/we had Fukushima!! What has happened there is absolutely terrible for the environment and all life. Was it deliberate ----? THAT is the danger we face now. A mindset which is utterly without any morals and cares less about life.

It is easy to pretend to yourself everything is fine and rosy, and this may help you cling to some form of sanity, but it is a pseudo-sanity.
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#38
Let's be a little moderate in the way we draw patterns... Making easy and quick conclusions doesn't do any good. Not every human shit on earth has a link to Israel or the USA... We could have a nuclear disaster any day in France too, we already know that not all of the necessary repairs are done, that it is too expensive, that the nuclear power plants are not enough tough. It has nothing to do with Zionism or shit.

I hate that people mock plot theories scenarii, but still...

We could imagine anything, but where will it guide us? Nowhere except for insanity.

Citation :I find more and more a sense of being in a very increasingly insane world. let me tell you though what I mean by 'world'. I do not mean the Earth, and the wonderful sacred natural world, but rather the toxic fucked up world of business, and profit, and exploitation of all beings and the earth.
This is all the reason for all this shit, we don't need to see links and any logic other than greed and liberal/barbaric/domination ideology behind all this violence.

But I understand how we can draw this links. I did the same after a LSD trip, just after reading about Zionism. So I understand you. But take care man. Don't overdo it. It's just insane, pure madness.
Mes trips reports : The Death of Utopia, The Begining of the Dream

Le lâcher prise, c'est accepter de redevenir un enfant.
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#39
Sludge a écrit :Let's be a little moderate in the way we draw patterns...

(sorry, in this instance I am choosing to slice up what you are saying. I don't usually dig this because it can get all messy with quotes every where. So I suggest just for now this and then we return. I just want to try and make things clear as I can)
In exploring insanity you can't be 'moderate'. Ecstasy is not moderate. When we have psychedelic experience and experience the throes of ecstasy it is not moderate, but extraordinarily deep. Likewise so must our general questioning be like that. Asking them very well lead you into what this culture calls insanity. There are people who are SO affected by this insane world they go 'mad', and this cultures claims their madness is biological caused mental illness. However there is no medical science to support that notion. I see the mad as the sane ones and the so-called adjusted as insane. The ones who just accept the way things are are insane. So if you want moderate, maybe this thread is not for you?



Citation :Making easy and quick conclusions doesn't do any good. Not every human shit on earth has a link to Israel or the USA... We could have a nuclear disaster any day in France too, we already know that not all of the necessary repairs are done, that it is too expensive, that the nuclear power plants are not enough tough. It has nothing to do with Zionism or shit.

It is not #easy and quick solution'. I have been on this since 9/11 attacks, and before that was also on an exploration since I was 15 and had first LSD trips looking into the mythologies of the world, and how people come to believe the things they do and do the things they do. So this is not some 'easy and quick solutions' I assure. A lot of effort, reading, watching, feeling, thinking. Doesn't mean I am 'right', but that is why I question.

Citation :I hate that people mock plot theories scenarii, but still...

But still what...?

Citation :We could imagine anything, but where will it guide us? Nowhere except for insanity.

Imagination has actually a LOT to do with it. How tptb manipulate our imagination. An imagination that has been suppressed for centuries via religious and secular paradigms. ALL that is involved.
So this is not further suppression of imagination, but also as invigoration of imagination. As I say, the wolrd is already insane and to explore this may make you feel insane, but it is not, it is you having the courage to look, and not be put off looking. The whole point of their hold over us is mind control to police ourselves and others. Their central strategy is DIVIDE and CONTROL and that goes very deep, such as dividing you from your very senses and imagination, and others, and the natural world.

Citation :This is all the reason for all this shit, we don't need to see links and any logic other than greed and liberal/barbaric/domination ideology behind all this violence.

Of COURSE they use logic, AND numbers, and symbolism, and words, etc. And we need to simply become aware of all this. Not become part of their religion, or fear looking into it will empower them more. What empowers them is our UN-AWARENESS. Take the example of corporate advertisements. They spend MILLIONS to target your unconscious to consume what they want you to, and so people do. Now, if you become aware what they are doing, you see through it and don't buy it. But first you have to understand that they are doing tricks on you. if you deny it then you choose denial. Or you rationalize and apologize for it.

Citation :But I understand how we can draw this links. I did the same after a LSD trip, just after reading about Zionism. So I understand you. But take care man. Don't overdo it. It's just insane, pure madness.

Well THEY are insane of course. But us looking into it is not insane, but sanity. To look the other way is insanity. if your child is in trouble and you look the other way, then that is not being responsible. Well all the children to come in the next seven generations are our children. They are us. We are a human species, and also to care for all other species and the natural world. Maybe it will seem like insanity to look into this---the 'falling down the rabbit hole'--but what is the alternative? Sticking your head in the sand? Your arse is still exposed!
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#40
Zezt i got the feeling you do not comminicate. You don, t want to understand other people and do not listen. I think you are preaching and lack a sense of humor.

I have been to hell i have lost people. I know what insanity is. I do not need to go back. I do not need to go insane.
Refusing to feel down and depressed is not the same as sticking your head in the sand.
Zezt every time you totally mis the point what i am trying to say.

You say other people believe in myths bla bla bla. And other people live in a bubble. But don, t you see you also believe in a myth. Don, t you see you also behave like you, re in a bubble.

For once try to listen and understanf other people instead of preaching to them. Try not to shoot your moralistic jizz all over the place. And for gods sake grow a sense of humor.
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#41
If you turn on the news and follow the media including the so called alternative media (same shit it,s all propaganda) you will believe the world is insane.

Repeat :terror danger racism insanity fear terror danger racism insanity fear terror ect.
It, s just like a fckng mantra.
How does it make you feel. Feels good doesn, t it.

Sorry but i do not need someone to preach to me about how bad everything is. I do not need someone who tells me to wake up or someone who tells me that i put my head in the sand. If you want to communicate as equals i am ready for it. If you want to ask questions i am willing to answer them.
I don, t need people talking down at me like they are some kind of teacher or police.

Zezt you seem to know best. And you seem to feel the need to act like some kind of alex jones talking about conspiranoid theories and how bad and insane everything is. How everything is a conspiracy of the elite.
I do not need this. If i want to hear this shit i listen to alex jones or david icke.

Ofcourse you will not understand me. You will never understand me because you don, t want to understand.

We know the world is fckd up we do not need you to tell us. I really hate preachy talk even if the preachers are right. And there never is any humor with the preachers.

If you want to communicate tell us what it is you want?
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#42
Finarfin a écrit :Zezt i got the feeling you do not comminicate. You don, t want to understand other people and do not listen. I think you are preaching and lack a sense of humor.

I have been to hell i have lost people. I know what insanity is. I do not need to go back. I do not need to go insane.
Refusing to feel down and depressed is not the same as sticking your head in the sand.
Zezt every time you totally mis the point what i am trying to say.

You say other people believe in myths bla bla bla. And other people live in a bubble. But don, t you see you also believe in a myth. Don, t you see you also behave like you, re in a bubble.

For once try to listen and understanf other people instead of preaching to them. Try not to shoot your moralistic jizz all over the place. And for gods sake grow a sense of humor.


Finarfin. I was not even replying to you.

If you hate what I am talking about, that is just YOUR opinion, obviously not mine or the very few others who are engaging in MY thread. If you hate this so much what are you even coming here for? Are you some kind of control-freak trying to censor me and confine the conversation according to your worldview?
Well, it aint gonna work. Unless you become a moderator and gain the power to ban me either deal with what I am speaking about, or respectively engage, or go a-way.

I will not even communicate with you at ALL if you continue to be rude like you are!

also you type 'don't' like that. Not like 'Don, t'



a HUGE part of the insanity of the world is to do with people being apathetic, and refusing to see, feel, critically think, and take responsibility. In psychological terms this kind of apathy is called 'learned helplessness'. The horrible animal torturing whitecoats came up with this horrible term after torturing dogs via elctrocution, the disovered that if the dog did not have any reason to know why and when they were going to be electrocuted they would just totally crack up, and even when electrocuted farther would not even attempt to jump a low fence away from the place they were getting the shocks. they were just shivering wrecks.

An analogy of our situation is that many of us are being blitzed left right and centre by events which take away our freedoms, and also are harming the very environment we need to live. YET many people are so obsessed with the plastic world of entertainment, they do not even care the walls are closing in around them. Bit like frogs in boiling water.

Psychedelics as sacred medicine SHOULD re-senstize them, but the conditioning can be so strong even that won't work. They are quite happy to live in a plastic theme park, what Huxley described as a Brave New World. Soon they will be having you beg to be chipped!
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#43
I don't want to be rude with you. I understand what you're trying to say, I'm also aware of it, even if I'm not convinced by the Fukushima thing but it's trivial. Zionism and American Imperialism are a huge shit, everyday I'm more devastated by this. Also I have a French weblog where I defend conspiracy theorists against despise and mockery.

But I know that I don't want to go too much trough it, I have to go through my own life, and act on what I can touch and feel through my own hands and build in my head through my own experience, which is more real than anything. I can create my own reality, building my life, trying to be an example for everyone. It's not at all putting my head into the sand, it's the opposite. I'm trying to take care of things, take care of people around me. I know that the best thing I could do is promoting a positive way of thinking through others individualities and teaching people how to be suspicious about any form of power or hierarchy.

I have respect and sympathy for you.
Mes trips reports : The Death of Utopia, The Begining of the Dream

Le lâcher prise, c'est accepter de redevenir un enfant.
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Ce qui importe avec l’expérience psychédélique, ou plus généralement spirituelle, ce n’est pas la vérité que l’on croit toucher du doigt, mais bien le chemin qu’elle nous fait parcourir sur notre rapport au soi, aux autres et à la vie.
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#44
what you say seems very mixed up to me. How the heck can the Fukushima disaster, and all the absolutely necessary investigation about it, for one huge example, be 'trivial' to you...?
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#45
Maybe I misused this word. I meant that I don't think any conspiracy is behind this disaster.
Mes trips reports : The Death of Utopia, The Begining of the Dream

Le lâcher prise, c'est accepter de redevenir un enfant.
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Ce qui importe avec l’expérience psychédélique, ou plus généralement spirituelle, ce n’est pas la vérité que l’on croit toucher du doigt, mais bien le chemin qu’elle nous fait parcourir sur notre rapport au soi, aux autres et à la vie.
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#46
Okay that, s it.
Communicating with zezt is like talking to a wall.

He wrote it himself. It is HIS thread. And if i don, t like what HE has to say i should not come here.
It, s all about HIM and HIS ideas.
He is not willing to listen to others. He doesn, t ask questions.
He is not intressted in what others have to say.
It, s a solo show. There is no communication. He just want to preach about HIS ideas. Shooting his conspiracy and fear jizz all over the place.

I am not a control freak. I was trying to communicate.
What you wrote about me trying to censor you is crazy and sad lol.
How can i censor you, you can write what you want.

Go ahead tell us how bad everything is and how the elite control us. I don, t care.
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#47
Sludge a écrit :Maybe I misused this word. I meant that I don't think any conspiracy is behind this disaster.

Sludge a écrit :Maybe I misused this word. I meant that I don't think any conspiracy is behind this disaster.

I find it incredibly amusing that people have fallen for this 'conspiracy theory' block-to-critical-thinking trick which is a deliberate CIA device brought into the public domain soon after the JFK assassination for the purposes of blocking challenges to the official version. Which is--pardon the pun--full of holes.
W Bush also used the term following the 9/11 attacks telling people to 'not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories'--omitting his and his fellow criminals truly outrageous and absurd one about 19 Arabs with box-cutters taking on the might of the US superpowers intelligence and defense military----errr like, yeahhh, sure!:roll:

Actually in the corporate business world conspiracies abound! It is cut throat and that is what they do. Their bread and butter. So to assume the business of politics and world domination does not have conspiracies is utterly ignore-ant and absurd, and hopelessly naive. And to think this is to show me how dumbed down they have got people.

But anyway, back to the awful subject of the Fukushima catastrophe. To try and get clues to if there are people hidden responsible, then we can infer. Because inference is very important in detective investigation:

Citation :Overview

Investigative Psychology grows directly out of empirical research and logical inference to cover the full range of investigative activities not only the preparation of 'profiles'. The inference processes at the heart of Investigative Psychology contrast with the approach used in the Federal Bureau of Investigation which emphasises subjective processes such as "thinking like the criminal". This field provides a system for the integration of many aspects of psychology into all areas of police investigations and forms of crime.[SUP][4][/SUP] Investigative Psychology stresses that the results of scientific psychology can contribute to many aspects of civilian and criminal investigation, including the full range of crimes from burglary to terrorism, not just those extreme crimes of violence that have an obvious psychopathic component.

The contribution to investigations draws on the extent to which an offender displays various tested characteristics.[SUP][5][/SUP] as well as procedures for enhancing the processes by which interviews are carried out or information is put before the courts. One aim of investigative psychology research is determining behaviourally important and empirically supported information regarding the consistency and variability of the behaviour of many different types of offenders, although to date most studies have been of violent crimes there is a growing body of research on burglary and arson. It is also important to establish valid and reliable methods of distinguishing between offenders and between offences.[SUP][5][/SUP]
source

I would ask you and others interested to watch these videos:





Now we add their occult clues and/or fingerprints (and by the way, I am not claiming it is JUST the Israeli Mossad. They and other intelligence agencies like the CIA, MI6, etc will work in covert for the same globalist ideology. The connecting group is Freemasonry.

Citation :11 examples of Illuminati numerology


I was introduced to Illuminati numerology by Captain Eric May, the Army Intelligence Analyst turned mainstream op-ed writer. I helped convince Captain May to come out publicly for 9/11 truth in 2005, and published his “coming out article” at MUJCA.com. Needless to say, that ended his career writing op-eds for NBC News.
When Captain May first told me it was no accident the Illuminati picked September ELEVENTH for their big human sacrifice, I thought he was out of his mind. He pointed out: “There are 911 days between 9/11 (2001) and 3/11 (the Madrid bombings), a notable fact, made all the more notable by the fact that 9/11 and 3/11 are numerically connected in another way: the first numeric digits. 9 is the square of 3, as 3 is the square root of 9.”

Fukushima happened on 11 March 2011, that is 11/3/11, or as in the order its put down in the US, 3/11/11.
ALSO, Japan was showing support of Palestine, and there is a pattern being deduced, that when a country shows support of the Palestinian peoples something bad happens. This was also the recent case in Paris. Benjamin Netanyahu had warned France --a month before the attacks--that supported Palestine would be a 'grave mistake'. A threat!!

In that article, about dectective investigation there is also the central importance emphasized of 'getting into the mind of the criminal'. That is what I meant some posts above where I said how to become same we have to explore insanity. You cannot pretend evil doesn't exist.

What then? First LOOK, SEE, ASK QUESTIONS.

yes some people MAY fear for their sanity looking into this, and that is why I also share how I am a unique researcher into this. IE as far as the online researchers I am aware of. Recently I have discovered two researchers called Zachary K Hubbard, and Truthiracy, who I feel a certain affinity with, but the rest of nearly-all males seem to be either Christian or New Age. Both belief systems have a paranoid view of human nature and the natural world.

But my spiritual grounding is that I feel close to nature. I see these belief systems are against nature, the sensual body, and indigenous peoples. So knowing this I don't feel isolated, or part of a belief system which is just as bad as and on par with the one I am investigating and warning about.
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#48
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#49
Finarfin a écrit :You can blame the elite.

For some people it never occurs that They are "the elite" in this world.

In fact I'm pretty sure that all of us on this board are part of the richest minority in the world.

How many mouths could we feed? And still we don't do it.

We're crazy.
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#50
part of the ruling class's mindcontrol is BLAME. They love for you to blame yourself. Blaming yourself means you take your eye off them.

A good example of this is the religious fear based mind control where you were BLAMED for being born in sin, and nature is blamed for being 'fallen', and thus IF you do not bow down to your massa this will mean eternal damnation for you:

Citation :1 Timothy 6:1 - "1 All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered."

Ephesians 6:5 - "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."

1 Peter
- "Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority."

1 Peter
- "Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

In the secular world, defying the authority of the elite is called 'mental illness', and then they will coerce the drugging of your person to regain 'chemical balance'

Ot is usually the poorest communities who have been the most generous and sharing with each other. BUT again via deliberate mind control from the control-grid (who also torture animals to 'study behavior modification' and then apply it to humans)such communities have been degraded and people have become isolated

So my point is is to NOT condemn your own nature. That is what they want you to do so as to feel demoralized. So as to feel that you are naturally a selfish, aggressive, war-loving person.
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#51
You, re unique researcher LOL.
Nowadays everybody who watches two youtube videos calls himself a researcher .
I have known so many people who told me exactly the same shit you are writing. I have heard this story many many times before.

It is easy to blame the elite for everything that is wrong in the world and in your life. You don, t have to look in the mirror if everything is the fault of the elite.
What i was trying to say is that the elite may want to control you. However we all have something i would like to inner strenght, inner wisdom.
Should we not use the inner strenght to make the world better. To fight for a better world.
We do NOT need any elite or any church. Fck the elite and the curch. Fck the mind control media (also the alternative media). Fck the goverment.
Israel is a state and palestina is also a state. It is a crime that israel is killing palestinians. I am against the agression of israel and i am against war. However i am not going to support any state (and goverment).
We should not be seperated and isolated by borders and walls.

I believe love is stronger then hate.

Whyra a écrit :For some people it never occurs that They are "the elite" in this world.

In fact I'm pretty sure that all of us on this board are part of the richest minority in the world.

How many mouths could we feed? And still we don't do it.

We're crazy.

This is what wanted to say. We are all part of this system.
We have our own role in the system.
And when you ask people what they are doing they say there just doing there job.

Now ofcourse there is a elite and there are corporations with to much power.
But i think the whole systeem needs to change from the inside.
It, s not just the top of the pyramid it,s the whole system.
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#52
Citation :You, re unique researcher LOL.
Nowadays everybody who watches two youtube videos calls himself a researcher .
I have known so many people who told me exactly the same shit you are writing. I have heard this story many many times before.

you are rude! And if you were mature you would maybe realize that when your are rude to people and show disrespect then you will receive disrespect also. And that is what I feel about you, and am choosing not to engage with you. Nowhere was I rude to you before, and yet recently you have, and so that is it. I will not tolerate people like you who do not know how to behave.
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#53
This video reveals clearly how they are blatantly now showing themselves and their beliefs whilst mockingly knowing that many people haven't got a clue about being a part OF their occult rituals!

In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#54
You should read that: https://overthrowingilluminati.files.wor...i_read.pdf
Mes trips reports : The Death of Utopia, The Begining of the Dream

Le lâcher prise, c'est accepter de redevenir un enfant.
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Ce qui importe avec l’expérience psychédélique, ou plus généralement spirituelle, ce n’est pas la vérité que l’on croit toucher du doigt, mais bien le chemin qu’elle nous fait parcourir sur notre rapport au soi, aux autres et à la vie.
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#55
well, it is basically a Marxist Communist manifesto. In its bit about why Illuminati theory is wrong it says that people who theorize it think the Illuminati control everything and are like gods. Well the 'Illuminati' people very well MAY think they are totally in control and are gods, but I don't.

Some researchers do, true, and I have articles online criticizing that. Researchers like Alan Watt (not Watts), Iona Miller, Jan Irvin believe similar to that. That, for example, the whole of the psychedelic counterculture was totally controlled by the CIA, and even great speakers and writers like Alan Watts had CIA handlers, and how psychedelics were pushed by the elite to create 'deadheads' (Irvin). I think that is all paranoid crap

HOWEVER! World Wars are not created by me. Nor by most people. Nor was Vietnam, nor 9/11, nor the 'war' in Iraq, but by very powerful groups with their combined plots where a lot of money to be made is involved. Many ordinary people truly hate war, and this is why the evil shits/tptb spend a fortune pumping people with their war propaganda! Of course the ones that love these wars for their filthy bloody profits don't get a spot of blood on their expensive suits.

If 'Communism' is being offered as the solution to 'Capitalism' and vice verse then I think the person caught up in that false solution hasn't thought things through. BOTH ideologies have completely failed in world history...so, what now?

Back to that video of the ritual. What are your own actual thoughts on it?
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#56
zezt a écrit :you are rude! And if you were mature you would maybe realize that when your are rude to people and show disrespect then you will receive disrespect also. And that is what I feel about you, and am choosing not to engage with you. Nowhere was I rude to you before, and yet recently you have, and so that is it. I will not tolerate people like you who do not know how to behave.

Sorry if i hurt you feelings. I do not think i am rude. I am just speaking my mind and maybe i am rude but i am not dishonest. I try to listen to what you have got to say.

The point is that what you are saying is nothing new. It, s the standart truth movement alternative media stuff.
The elite are controlling us bla bla bla. I have heard this shit many times before. And i am sick and tired of hearing the same old story over and over again out of the mounths of people who call themselfs researchers. These people who call themselves researchers are actually priests in the church of conspiracy (also called the truth movement), they just keep repeating the same narrative over and over like a broken record.


Things are more complex.
One thing for example is the way we produce food. I think we can change this world when we start to change the way we produce and take care of our food.

I think there are things we can do to make a change. One thing we can do is be an example to others by letting our lives be our message.

Zezt you just write whatever you want to write and do whatever makes you happy.
I was just trying to communicate with you. I think you act like a total cunt when you took the moral highground and starting preaching to us. You just did not want to try and understand what i had to say. You misunderstood almost everything i had to say and this is fustrating to me. You do not have to agree with me. But i would apreciate it if you would try to understand what i am trying to bring across.

If you like to talk about conspiracy so much why not go to a forum that is all about conspiracy. Why do you need to post this shit here? Why not post on a site where people come who want to hear what yoi have to say.
Why do you need to shoot your conspiracy jizz all over the tits of this forum?
Well i guess your answer will be that i am trying to censor you or bullshit like that. I am not trying to censor you. Do whatever you like and fck you for bringing the church of conspiranoia to this forum.
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#57
Sludge or any people interested in this subject, please do not be intimidated by Finarfin's rants. He is not a moderator here, and has no power to censor ANY discussion. He is on my ignore list now so thankfully I do not have to read his very rude offensive posts any more!
It is very important that ANYTHING people want to inquire about is respected. You may not agree etc but this does not mean you have the right to be offensive to the other people, and you can always agree to differ.
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#58
Citation :'PSYCHONAUT'/psychedelic explorer; definition:

psychonaut
An explorer of one's own mind. A psychonaut often embarks on inner voyages with the aid of psychoactive substances, meditation, sensory deprivation, binaural beats, and other means. Most commonly, one who experiments with psychedelic substances, such as psilocybin, LSD, MDMA (ecstasy), peyote, or mescalin. The goal of the psychonaut is to learn about self and reality by transcending normal consciousness. Psychonauts are distinguished from purely recreational users of psychoactive substances in their desire to learn and grow from these experiences.

Rebecca considered herself to be a psychonaut, looking for new ways of understanding the world and herself each time she ate her homegrown magic mushrooms.

I think that definition tends to label 'recreational users' as like ALL the same and assume that ALL do not seek value, and understanding. I don't agree

However, I underline the part I feel most in agreement with. I think we ALL look for meaning. Even the most plastic celebrity-obsessed consumer is looking for 'meaning', it is just that from a deeper perspective it looks and is shallow and vacuous

IF we do not question things like 9/11, and who is in control of this world, and how they maintain control then this is swerving the real meaning of exploring reality. it means you are happy to live a lie. So if it touches certain people's nerve when hard or difficult questions are being asked then that should be seen as something that HAS moved you even if only to a hissy fit

So many are living a lie. The whole of the official conspiracy theory of the 9/11 attacks is absolutely absurd, and to carry on imagining that is in-the-past and has no bearing on present reality is delusional.

Psychedelic experience for me from the beginning of my 'recreational trips' have always shown me their DIRECT spiritual honesty. They do not fuck about. You see and feel and hear what is real. The cultural indoctrination dissolves, and you are present, and understanding this and integrating this inspires an integrity to encourage this in yourself and others.
It is seeing what really is, as you presently understand it and having the courage of your convictions.

To radically change something you HAVE to see it. if you are in a cult, for example, and pretend not to see all the phony shit then you do, but once you start allowing yourself to see it and question it you release its hold over you, because their hold very much includes mind control. After you think, 'shit, i was so mind controlled'
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#59
please watch this:
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#60
zezt a écrit :Sludge or any people interested in this subject, please do not be intimidated by Finarfin's rants. He is not a moderator here, and has no power to censor ANY discussion. He is on my ignore list now so thankfully I do not have to read his very rude offensive posts any more!
It is very important that ANYTHING people want to inquire about is respected. You may not agree etc but this does not mean you have the right to be offensive to the other people, and you can always agree to differ.

This is so stupid and sad.


What is insane to me is how there are people and corporations who profit from war and chaos.
War is a business. And where there is war there is propagenda and mind control.

This whole choatic situation in the world and especialy the middle east is the product of the US the UK and europe, s foreign policy, s.
It also has to do with addiction to oil and other natural resourches.

Ofcourse people are being manipulated and mind controled. The cia and other secret agencies are always plotting against each other. Some of those terror attacks may be black flag operations. They may or may not it, s speculation.

Yes there is this dark side and there is all this stuff you can find out on the web. Some of it may be true some of it may be nonsense or propaganda some of it may be speculation.
I am not someone who claims every conspiracy is nonsense.
I have read many books about history and the occult about freemasonry about secret society about psychology and mindcontrol about philosopy religion and mysticism and similair related topics. I would not dare to call myself a researcher.

My conclusion: things are much more complex then the narrative of the evil elite control everything.
There are different forces fighting for power on this planet.

We all have our own inner power and inner strengt. I say use your inner strengt to make this planet a more beautifull place and to help other people.
I like to make propaganda for something called love.
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