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How did psychedelic changed you
#31
Hi lolcmoney Since you asked it will give my opinion.
It seems like you trip a lot.
It also looks like your behavior is alienating you from your enviroment. You don, t want to alienate yourself socialy and become known as that crazy diamond.
If you ask me: take a break from tripping for a while. You need to take the time to intergrate your psychedelic experience.
Maybe you could focus yourself on something else for a while.
You could do sports yoga meditation read books or make some art painting drawing whatever. Being healthy is being in balance. When you trip to much you may get psychologicaly or socialy out of balance.

I don, t know you or your friends.
What is important when it comes to psychedelics is set and setting and the intention of you and your friends.
Why do you take acid? What do you want out of the experience?
I think it, s important to know what you and your friends want.

Life i have discovered is all about choices. We all make our own choices and it, s these choices that make us who we are. If you want to alienate yourself from your friends and family and if you want to be known as mooch it, s your own choice.
Think about who it is you want to be.

Personally i would not want to be know as a mooch. It, s far better to give than to take. I also would not want to alienate myself from my friends and family.
I am lucky to have friends who don, t mind talking about deep philosopical stuff like death and god. When i take a trip i try not to talk to much. I think it, s okay to talk about deep stuff. What i do not like is psychotic rambling. There is a fine line between the two i think.

When we look at the traditional use of the plant psychedelics (medicin) by the shamans and other traditional healers using these plants, we see there is a ritual and a structure to it. There ussualy is a very clear intention to the ritual.
With a good ayahuasca ritual under the guidance of someone who knows what he is doing, there is a space and atmosphere being created to support deep experiences.
I think if you want to have deep experiences make sure the set and setting are supportive of going deep.

Most important i think is to take a break.
Get yourself in order and your shit together. Invest in your social life.
Get a clear idea who it is you want to be and where you want to go.
Psychonaut means sailor of the mind. But every ship must find a harbor or destination someday
Floating around on the endless sea of the mind becomes pointless if you do it to long. You need to set goals for yourself.

This my advies. I am 33 years old. I do not know much. Do with it what you like.

Seriously i wish there where more places where people could go to have psychedelic experiences in a safe enviroment under the guidance of professional guides who know what theu are doing.

Now whe have retreath centres where people can take ayahuasca and such. I hope there will be more of this places im the future.
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#32
Hi Finarfin and everybody

I am here as a researcher in comparative religion, doing a project with the University of Bergen where I ask precisely the question of this thread: how has the use of psychedelics/entheogens changed you as a person? I am especially interested in what we might call the spiritual dimension to the use of these drugs - although I mean 'spiritual' in a very broad sense. Using psychedelics to explore the inner world is certainly spiritual in this sense.

If you or anyone would like to participate, I have a simple homemade website for the study at entheogenstudy.org, and you can reach me at petter@entheogenstudy.org.

I have no hidden agenda with this, except maybe the following: I suspect that there are many people out there who have a genuine spiritual relationship with entheogenic drugs, and who are able to use such drugs in a balanced and fruitful way that enhances their lives. If the academic world knew more about such people (right now almost nothing is known), a lot would probably change for the better in society.

So please get in touch if you have a story to tell. (Note that the above 'suspicion' will not stop me from asking critical questions!)
With an anonymous webmail account, we can communicate while your real-world identity remains completely unknown to me - so there should be no big risk of any kind.

Don't be shy
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#33
why don't make this study here, in this thread, and opened to all?
we want a free culture
anyway in all this forum you can read many experiences to have an idea
' a écrit :dio balla / god dances

ed è felice / and he's happy


Albert Einstein:

«
Tutto è energia e questo è tutto quello che esiste. Sintonizzati alla frequenza della realtà che desideri e non potrai fare a meno di ottenere quella realtà. Non c’è un’altra via. Questa non è filosofia. Questa è fisica.»

«Everything is energy and that’s all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.»

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#34
I will happily share the findings of the study with the people on this forum. Perhaps it is even possible to do interviews right here in a discussion thread, but I'm not sure it is a good idea. After all I want to ask many very personal questions, and even if people are anonymous on this board, they will still be recognized by others on this forum in terms of their user names, posting history and so on. This could make it difficult to answer truthfully.

I am happy to give it a try though.

As for reading about people's experiences on this forum: that's helpful to some extent, but it is quite fragmented. I want to go much deeper with just a few people, so I can understand in a more profound sense what an entheogenic-spiritual life looks like. Does that make sense?
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#35
ok! So we will wait the sharing!

anyway, personally, you can interview me here too! I don't care much about anonymity
' a écrit :dio balla / god dances

ed è felice / and he's happy


Albert Einstein:

«
Tutto è energia e questo è tutto quello che esiste. Sintonizzati alla frequenza della realtà che desideri e non potrai fare a meno di ottenere quella realtà. Non c’è un’altra via. Questa non è filosofia. Questa è fisica.»

«Everything is energy and that’s all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.»

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#36
Great!

First of all I would really want to ask you to read and sign a "Request for participation" info sheet. It's available at http://entheogenstudy.org/Request%20for%...ation.docx - please download, write in your Psychonaut username and date, save as PDF so it can't be traced to your computer, and send it to petter@entheogenstudy.org. I know it's kind of boring, but university ethics committees like this kind of stuff.

What I want to ask is summed up in the following:

1. Your background and life situation. Who are you? Where do you come from (in every sense)? How is your social life, work life, spiritual life, personal life? How is your mental health situation? (please answer in general terms that cannot be used to trace your real identity)
2. Your history with using entheogenic drugs. What are you using, how often, for how long? Can you describe your most important experiences?
3. Consequences of entheogenic drug use. Good and bad - for every aspect of your life.

This is the basic set-up - I hope the conversation can develop organically and be fruitful for everyone involved.

(cleaned up post and removed info thing)
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#37
entheogenresearcher a écrit :write in your Psychonaut username and date,

In order to preserve privacy, participants are encouraged to create an anonymized web email account for the purpose of communication with the author.

curiosity: why must we write username and data? where is the privacy? write you it in the searching, or not?!

entheogenresearcher a écrit :with the purpose of discovering long-term implications for spirituality, health, and life through in-depth interviews.

in which sense "long-term"?


please the next time use "edit" button to write, don't do consecutive post. thank's!
' a écrit :dio balla / god dances

ed è felice / and he's happy


Albert Einstein:

«
Tutto è energia e questo è tutto quello che esiste. Sintonizzati alla frequenza della realtà che desideri e non potrai fare a meno di ottenere quella realtà. Non c’è un’altra via. Questa non è filosofia. Questa è fisica.»

«Everything is energy and that’s all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.»

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#38
Sorry about the triple post. Normally people would be asked to sign the sheet with their ordinary name, but because this study is investigating mostly illegal practices I don't want you to do that. Your username at this forum or whatever you choose for your email is anyway public and does not compromise your privacy. The point with having some kind of signature as that by signing the info sheet you indicate that you have read the thing and are therefore officially aware of your rights. This is important to ethics committees (not to me personally).

I will not use your username/email in the research paper unless you specifically want me to do so. If I want to refer to you by name, I will just invent a name for you (or you can invent one for yourself).

With "long-term" I mean basically "for life". In other words I want to investigate what consequences the use of entheogens has for you over a period of your entire lifetime (so far, obviously). What improvements and/or complications - I guess it is often both - do they result in for health, work, spirituality etc?

Please continue asking about everything that is not clear. And thank you very much for your participation.
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#39
I started to belive in my self, to believe in my dreams, hoping more and think less about the bad things of this life. Heart
But I no longer have friendly relationships with people who do not make use of psychedelic ... this makes sense?
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#40
armageddon a écrit :I started to belive in my self, to believe in my dreams, hoping more and think less about the bad things of this life. Heart
But I no longer have friendly relationships with people who do not make use of psychedelic ... this makes sense?

I don, t know?
Believing in yourself and your dreams seems positive.
Not having friendly relationships with people who do not use psychedelics, does not sounds that positive to me.

Most of my good friends have used psychedelics. But i also have friends who did not used psychedelics. I have family members and colleague, s who never used psychedelics, i have a friendly relationship with them.
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#41
OK, when I was little I had a real sense of the magic of nature. Some shrinks now would call some of the thoughts I had 'psychotic' because they are evil. I would somethimes think a TV programme was happening outside somewhere. I would look at nature and imagine fairies. I LOVED stories about fairies, and all kinds of magical happenings. And although I grew up through the beatles going from straight kids into weird LSDsters sining about kaleidoscope eyes etc, and was attracted to all that, and all the hippy diddy stuff that was being shown in the telly, I still though NOW saw nature as boring, and was obsessed by the big city. Everything to do with big sities, and including the more seedy side---the neon lit streets. I remember going to see the film Midnight Cowboy and yearning to go to NYC and experience all that. It was my dream mythical city.
I was told that if you fell down in NYC people would just step over you, even if you had died. And instead of being horrifies by that idea it excited me and made me wanna go even more. And I was growing a sadistic streak. I read horror books, and the only houseplant I was into was a Venus Fly Trap so I could see poop flies become trapped and eat by the plant.

With hindsight now, and what I am learning about the enforced 'education' system, I now know that their INTENTION is to dull you to your sensual body, creativity, imagination, and the natural world and to nurture sadistic tendencies

So OK, I get the chance to live in a big city when I am 15 and when there I meet these hippies (called 'heads' then) and they turn me onto LSD. I am not even sure what the tiny tiny tiny blue pill was, and couldn't even feel it on my tongue, but it was LSD, and my very first trip was me sat on a couch at the party they'd invited me to observing these other partygoers who weren't tripping but many skoked dope. Some were playing these 'telepathic games' werhe one person is looking at a card and others have to telepathically guess whats on the card. I was looking at this with psychedelic eyes and felt I could see deeply their body language, and what they really felt, and how it contradicted the personal or social mask they were presenting to others. And the whole irony (though I didn't even know what that word was then lol) of this had me laughing so hysterically I thought I was gonna pass out, and I got some hateful looks from some of them

So, I went onto have other LSD trips, and the most powerful parts of the trip for me were the gradual comedowns where we would all go out about dawn, and walk past gardens, and into parks and look and experience nature. And THESE experiences totally blew away all the deadening dumbing down that had been happening to me from the ages of about 8/9 to 15 when I had the LSD. I suddenly saw nature as a magical sacred infinitely ALIVE place, and the city as superifical, rigic, with android-like people all moving very quick in straight lines, eyes forward, whether in cars, or walking. None fluidly looking at the sky and taking in the wonder of life

So it was these experiences that inspires an ongoing journey I am still on, where I delve deeper and deeper into the question of how come people are so lost, and the hows and whys of what to do to re soul ouselves so we feel and see the natural world as the amazing sacred place it is
In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act ~ George Orwell
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#42
I always had different friends. but lately I see more and more people tend to worsen their situation and so I try to have something to do with people who bring happiness in my life. I do not judge anyone because I for one I spent many moments terrible.this is situation at the time. Good evening to all!!
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#43
zezt a écrit :OK, when I was little I had a real sense of the magic of nature. Some shrinks now would call some of the thoughts I had 'psychotic' because they are evil. I would somethimes think a TV programme was happening outside somewhere. I would look at nature and imagine fairies. I LOVED stories about fairies, and all kinds of magical happenings. And although I grew up through the beatles going from straight kids into weird LSDsters sining about kaleidoscope eyes etc, and was attracted to all that, and all the hippy diddy stuff that was being shown in the telly, I still though NOW saw nature as boring, and was obsessed by the big city. Everything to do with big sities, and including the more seedy side---the neon lit streets. I remember going to see the film Midnight Cowboy and yearning to go to NYC and experience all that. It was my dream mythical city.
I was told that if you fell down in NYC people would just step over you, even if you had died. And instead of being horrifies by that idea it excited me and made me wanna go even more. And I was growing a sadistic streak. I read horror books, and the only houseplant I was into was a Venus Fly Trap so I could see poop flies become trapped and eat by the plant.

With hindsight now, and what I am learning about the enforced 'education' system, I now know that their INTENTION is to dull you to your sensual body, creativity, imagination, and the natural world and to nurture sadistic tendencies

So OK, I get the chance to live in a big city when I am 15 and when there I meet these hippies (called 'heads' then) and they turn me onto LSD. I am not even sure what the tiny tiny tiny blue pill was, and couldn't even feel it on my tongue, but it was LSD, and my very first trip was me sat on a couch at the party they'd invited me to observing these other partygoers who weren't tripping but many skoked dope. Some were playing these 'telepathic games' werhe one person is looking at a card and others have to telepathically guess whats on the card. I was looking at this with psychedelic eyes and felt I could see deeply their body language, and what they really felt, and how it contradicted the personal or social mask they were presenting to others. And the whole irony (though I didn't even know what that word was then lol) of this had me laughing so hysterically I thought I was gonna pass out, and I got some hateful looks from some of them

So, I went onto have other LSD trips, and the most powerful parts of the trip for me were the gradual comedowns where we would all go out about dawn, and walk past gardens, and into parks and look and experience nature. And THESE experiences totally blew away all the deadening dumbing down that had been happening to me from the ages of about 8/9 to 15 when I had the LSD. I suddenly saw nature as a magical sacred infinitely ALIVE place, and the city as superifical, rigic, with android-like people all moving very quick in straight lines, eyes forward, whether in cars, or walking. None fluidly looking at the sky and taking in the wonder of life

So it was these experiences that inspires an ongoing journey I am still on, where I delve deeper and deeper into the question of how come people are so lost, and the hows and whys of what to do to re soul ouselves so we feel and see the natural world as the amazing sacred place it is

Interesting post zezt.

I was not alive during the time when the beatles where singing about lucy in the sky.
I was born and raised in a big city.
Always enjoyed being in nature, but living in a big city there is not that much nature around.

I alwayd enjoyed being in nature, but it where the mushrooms that made me fall in love with nature. It did not happened in a instance. This falling in love happend over a long period of many years and many mushrooms trips.
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#44
I love drugs ...at 12 I told my mom I had a "passion" for marijuana ( now with a little taxing and education legal in my state
!!!!!)... I used to be a junk box (heroin) and psychadelics helped me to know liking drugs is OK ... I'm OK... Taking heroin like I did ... Not OK but now .. Because of psychadelic drugs and a t shulgin.... I'm studying chemistry at a good university and one day hope to study drug effects... Legally lol. Follow your passion people even if its drugs... You have not been made wrong drugs can be cool if used properly
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#45
Hi all!
I have a dilemma regarding this topic... I am spending next few months in Amsterdam, staying at hotels, going back home on weekends. I am interested to use this time of seclusion to explore my psyche, especially OBE, benefiting from the fact that market is well developed here, and i am on my own. Since my youth, i have been experiencing some OBE for many years now, but very sporadic and uncontrollable. I have never used any substances, I have very calm personality, very selfaware outlook on life, and have absolutely no fears, so i am wondering, can use of psychedelic change me in some way?
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#46
which kind of psychedelic?
anyway, sure! they are created just for this (in addition to being insecticides)
and if a person is calm and doesn't has fear, and destroys his ego, he will goes with God
' a écrit :dio balla / god dances

ed è felice / and he's happy


Albert Einstein:

«
Tutto è energia e questo è tutto quello che esiste. Sintonizzati alla frequenza della realtà che desideri e non potrai fare a meno di ottenere quella realtà. Non c’è un’altra via. Questa non è filosofia. Questa è fisica.»

«Everything is energy and that’s all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.»

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#47
Abej^a G. a écrit :which kind of psychedelic?
anyway, sure! they are created just for this (in addition to being insecticides)
and if a person is calm and doesn't has fear, and destroys his ego, he will goes with God
I don't know, which kind will help me with OBE? As i said, i never used anything, not even smoked cannabis.
The thing is, I don't look to experience going with God. I have very firm faith in christian God. I don't need psychedelic to know He is with me. I just want to have controlled experiment with OBE in which I get into incidentally. And i am wondering can such experience change me.
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#48
I understand all. (I didn't say "goes with God" to say you are near God with this substances...)

anyway, you talk about dream, maybe you don't need psychedelic (even if someone says with DMT and psylocibin -like amanita muscaria- you will dream very well with flashes of lucidity), maybe you need oneiric substance, like melatonin, atemisia vulgaris, calea zacatechichi, blue lotus..... good read my friend: http://www.psychonaut.com/other-psychoac...herbs.html :rock:
' a écrit :dio balla / god dances

ed è felice / and he's happy


Albert Einstein:

«
Tutto è energia e questo è tutto quello che esiste. Sintonizzati alla frequenza della realtà che desideri e non potrai fare a meno di ottenere quella realtà. Non c’è un’altra via. Questa non è filosofia. Questa è fisica.»

«Everything is energy and that’s all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.»

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#49
Psychedlics connect the individual to a greater purpose, dissolve boundaries as well as the ego.

Also shows that we are all connected
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#50
I feel like my 'work' w/ psychedelics have been one of THE most beneficial experiences of my entire life. They completely give me a new outlook, a new perspective, and make me very aware of my own mortality.

I see it, sometimes, as a very high tower from which to view my progress, or lack of, in life.
Also, just a very interesting and novel way to experience being alive. I live for those moments.

When you're riding on the cusp of awareness, keenly aware of The Now and your senses are tingling like you were just born. Don't get me wrong, there have been earth shattering BAD trips as well, but even these made me more aware of the role other people can play in our lives.

Concluding, I think these experiences can heighten our awareness of our surroundings. Like fasting, we can see afresh the positive and negative things in our lives through the goggles of psychedelics.

Thanks for asking, good question.
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#51
Hawkmoon a écrit :I don't know, which kind will help me with OBE? As i said, i never used anything, not even smoked cannabis.
The thing is, I don't look to experience going with God. I have very firm faith in christian God. I don't need psychedelic to know He is with me. I just want to have controlled experiment with OBE in which I get into incidentally. And i am wondering can such experience change me.

If you are in amsterdam you could visit a smartshop and get some magic truffels.

OBE is that out of body experience?
I think mescaline (cactus) may be the psychedelic that may come close to an OBE. However a psychedelic experience and a OBE are two different type of experience, they are not the same.
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#52
Mushrooms definitely opened my eyes to the world.
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#53
They enlighted me.
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#54
Absolutely after Ayahuasca use I'm a lot more easygoing and carefree. I sing and dance like a little kid again, which is amazing.
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#55
Hello,

This is my first post and consider the good place to start.
Quick answers like enlightened me and woke me up are written to be understood by people who have already experienced something similar, but what about those who have limited experience and info on the topic ?

Like other members have written before me I too felt that the use of psychedelics enhanced my vision of life and understand aspect that were previously out of my sight. Actions that were done compulsively have started to make sense and thus being reduced. Once the light shines and you understand the harm you are doing to yourself by engaging in some actions/activities it gives you power to stop those actions. I made connections and understood my thought patterns better, actually that is putting it into scientific terms, but then, everything melted and felt the relieved of thoughts.

According to eastern philosophy the false self is starting to be perceived, but would not dare to say the true self is revealed. I have not experienced such elevated states, but until now my opinion is that this destination is reached with effort and time, not by ingesting substances. It would be wise to say that we need be aware of people who take psychedelics and affirm they are ego free.

All in all, life has started anew once I experienced psychedelic bliss. Attention to details is higher than before, self improvement is at its best, and not only that i pose interest in self improvement, but it is much easier to implement the ideas into aspect of my life. Before this, quitting was a common denominator for me. So i would point out that my willpower has increased.

I am glad to have joined this community
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#56
Also my first post here, I'm kind of a beginner in the psychedelic matter.
I experienced a few trips on truffles which were really nice and fun but I wanted to experience something that would revolutionnize my perceptions and help me acting better in this very life.
Yesterday I decided to take a bigger portion and what I saw disturbed me quite a lot, I saw a world that I felt I had no right to be in and it was terrifying (as I thought I wouldn't be able to return). I don't know what impact this will have on my life, but I know what I saw was real and that I'll have to deal with it anyway at some point.
How will this improve my life ? I think I understood that all the games we play here are not really relevant and that I should be more focused on what really matters but I don't know how yet.
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#57
spiralingsequences a écrit :Hello,

This is my first post and consider the good place to start.
Quick answers like enlightened me and woke me up are written to be understood by people who have already experienced something similar, but what about those who have limited experience and info on the topic ?



I think terms such as enlightenment, awakening and ego death can be misleading to some.
To those with limited experience i would like to put it simple: psychedelics can help you see into your own being. Psychedelic means manifesting the mind, making the mind visible. To say it in short psychedelics can help you learn to know yourself.
Awakening and enligthenment is knowing yourself.
When you know yourself you know what you like about yourself and what you don,t like. Ofcourse it takes willpower discipline and courage to change yourself.
psychedelics will show you these things, but they are no magic pill. You have to do the changing yourself. You have to do the work yourself.

i don,t think enligthenment is like putting on a light switch. I think we should stop thinking about enligthenment or awakening as a point. I see enlightenment more as a process. A way or a path.
I very much like the chinese word Tao. Tao means way or path. Tao is the mean principle in the chinese philosophy of taoism.
when we flow with our own inner energy (life force or in chinese Qi), things become much more smoother and more natural . When we flow with the tao we do not need to push ourselfs hard. Psychedelics may bring us into contact with our inner energy.

I think the spiritual process is something that continues your whole life. There might be low points and there might be high points, but it,s not about these points. It,s about the here and the now.
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#58
Confetti a écrit :Also my first post here, I'm kind of a beginner in the psychedelic matter.
I experienced a few trips on truffles which were really nice and fun but I wanted to experience something that would revolutionnize my perceptions and help me acting better in this very life.
Yesterday I decided to take a bigger portion and what I saw disturbed me quite a lot, I saw a world that I felt I had no right to be in and it was terrifying (as I thought I wouldn't be able to return). I don't know what impact this will have on my life, but I know what I saw was real and that I'll have to deal with it anyway at some point.
How will this improve my life ? I think I understood that all the games we play here are not really relevant and that I should be more focused on what really matters but I don't know how yet.

Why did it distubed you?
We all have a different experience. psychedelics may not be for everyone. For some it works really well to improve there life, for others not so much. It also depends on sett and setting. Can you explaine a bit more about your experience and why it disturbed you?
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#59
Psychedelics have done less to me in a general sense then they have in a specific sense. That is to say, while I do notice myself to be far more uncaring about ludicrous shit I do nowadays, more noticeable is my finding particular phrases and whatnot to imbue in me particular emotions. For instance, the phrases "running around like a hound" or "crack open a beer" make me laugh my ass off whilst certain songs will now make me feel incredibly nostalgic.
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#60
sensation --> perception. this concept mostly. that I can interpret elementary sensations differently, and this is not "wrong". it is just a different perception.
also, I have a perceived better understanding of nature, chemistry, biology, and life. which is really wonderful! it's nice to see all of the plants around as alive as well, instead of just some other thing that is not a human. Smile really great experiences overall
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